Slightly longer killer queues, I guess the patch is a success.

drsoontm

I've noticed slightly longer killer queues yesterday evening, even if the player population stayed high.

I'm guessing that means players usually going for survivor at that time went for killer instead.

It means that survivors finally had smaller queues during the night (yay).

I'm assuming some of these switches are because playing the M1 killers is easier at the moment (MMR woes plus survivors getting used to the new state of the game). The situation should revert slightly once these newborn killers start going against good teams and/or survivors find a new META.

But in essence, as painful solo can be at the moment (also mostly because MMR) it means we are closer to balance than we ever did.

MrMori

Yeah, I also think the BP incentives will help the queues quite a bit.

Mozic

I noticed the same - instantaneous queue times are convenient, but also a sign that the matchmaker is desperate for a role to pair up with opponents. Hopefully this also means that match quality will increase!

drsoontm

@MrMori said:

Depends mostly on the time of day to be honest with you.

Always has been, but for as long as I remember I've always played survivor during the day and switched to killer from 19:00 until the end of my game session.

Yesterday, I noticed longer queues and I even went back to survivor at some point.

MrMori

@drsoontm said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077270#Comment_3077270

Always has been, but for as long as I remember I've always played survivor during the day and switched to killer from 19:00 until the end of my game session.

Yesterday, I noticed longer queues and I even went back to survivor at some point.

Yeah I didn't read it all.

drsoontm

@Mozic said:

I noticed the same - instantaneous queue times are convenient, but also a sign that the matchmaker is desperate for a role to pair up with opponents. Hopefully this also means that match quality will increase!

It may indeed. Even if I play both roles, because of time constraints I had more time for the killer side than for the survivor's. I'll be taking this opportunity to try to improve my survivor plays. (Especially since I'm only decent against killers like Nurse, Hag and Spirit)

Mozic

@drsoontm said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077272#Comment_3077272

It may indeed. Even if I play both roles, because of time constraints I had more time for the killer side than for the survivor's. I'll be taking this opportunity to try to improve my survivor plays. (Especially since I'm only decent against killers like Nurse, Hag and Spirit)

I've been doing the same with my much-adored but seldom-played M1 killers. It's been super refreshing to spend more time on killers like Meyers and (addon-less) Spirit without feeling hopelessly outclassed just by loading into the game.

MikaelaWantsYourBoon

We need 2 big changes to make game better for everyone. Actually i will add one bonus too.

1. Killers got very nice perks. And now next step should be that nerf maps, make them smaller. Red Forest, Swamp etc should not exists anymore. And god loops should go too.
2. Big solo-q buffs. These buffs should help solos to coordination better. And i think basekit BT should be 15 seconds and perk should rework to different power.
3. Bonus = If top tier killers feels so op after these changes, BHVR should look them.

And i think we will have balanced and fun game again. Right now, killers feels better. SWF is okey. But sadly solo-q is so bad.

drsoontm

@Mozic said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077285#Comment_3077285

I've been doing the same with my much-adored but seldom-played M1 killers. It's been super refreshing to spend more time on killers like Meyers and (addon-less) Spirit without feeling hopelessly outclassed just by loading into the game.

Indeed, I've played more M1 than Nurse myself. (While I'm a Nurse main)

Mozic

@drsoontm said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077290#Comment_3077290

Indeed, I've played more M1 than Nurse myself. (While I'm a Nurse main)

Excited to play more Ghost Face too once they fix the chase music (again... [again... <again...>])

drsoontm

@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:

We need 2 big changes to make game better for everyone. Actually i will add one bonus too.

1. Killers got very nice perks. And now next step should be that nerf maps, make them smaller. Red Forest, Swamp etc should not exists anymore. And god loops should go too.
2. Big solo-q buffs. These buffs should help solos to coordination better. And i think basekit BT should be 15 seconds and perk should rework to different power.
3. Bonus = If top tier killers feels so op after these change, BHVR should look them.

And i think we will have balanced and fun game again. Right now, killers feels better. SWF is okey. But sadly solo-q is so bad.

1. Agreed with the map size. I'm surprised to be on the fence about god loops. With the killer changes, they may be more fair overall. (I need to see high level plays, in a few days, to make up my mind about that.)
2. While ranting about my random teammates, I was wondering about some indication the killer is being seen by another survivor. I don't want an insta-aura reading of course. I'm more thinking about something like ... When a survivor has eyes on the killer (and maybe points at him) then his icon changes color after a second (or randomly one to five second, reduced to 1 if the survivor points directly at the killer). The delay is important because not even SWF have this information isntantly. It's not fleshed out, and it's not complete but that something that I'm missing from my SWF days.
3. If ... yes, if. I didn't have the opportunity to play Nurse at high level yet, nor will I for a little while (the dust needs to settle first). And I'm not good enough with Blight to judge him. However its very possible that the boost for "M1" killers, coupled with their easier handling will make them a better, more efficient, choice for most. I guess we'll see.

I'm pretty sure the biggest problem with solo is the matchmaking. If it improves (cfr earlier messages) it should improve solo-q automatically.

drsoontm

@Mozic said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077294#Comment_3077294

Excited to play more Ghost Face too once they fix the chase music (again... [again... <again...>])

What, we are back to washing-machine time? Did they mess it up again this patch or was it not fixed before? (I'm only rarely playing Ghostface and rarely verse him)