Legion Addons Rework Treatment
Straight to the point.
Base Power Changes:
(+buff+) Power recovers during the fatigue
(+buff+) Power recovery decreased to 18 seconds (was 20 seconds)
(+buff+) Fatigue time decreased to 3 seconds (was 4 seconds)
(-nerf-) Duration decreased to 9 seconds (was 10 seconds)
(!new!) Whenever you Feral Slash a Survivor, refill the Power Gauge and add +0.5 second to it up to a maximum of +2 seconds.
(+buff+) Feral Frenzy Movement Speed increased to 5.5m/s (was 5.2m/s)
(=QoL=) Upon vaulting a Pallet or a Window, The Legion no longer loses the momentum
(=QoL=) Reduced the amount of "tunnel vision" during the fatigue
(=QoL=) The Legion can see Blood Pools during Feral Frenzy
(!new!) Detection Range is no longer tied to The Legion's Terror Radius and is 40 meters by default
(-nerf-) The Killer's Terror Radius is no longer increased by 8 meters during the Feral Frenzy
(=QoL=) Basic Attacks no longer deplete Feral Frenzy Power Gauge
(?other?) Mend action now takes priority over Snap Out of It action
(+buff+) Deep Wounds timer reduced down to 10 seconds
Power Addons Changes:
COMMON
(!new!) Smiley Face Pin:
Successful Feral Slashes Slightly (+0.1.2m/s) increase Feral Frenzy Movement speed up to Tremendously (+0.5m/s)
(-nerf-) Scratched Ruler:
Slightly (-1.5s) decrease the Feral Frenzy recharge time
(!new!) Mischief List:
Slightly (+0.1s) increase the Extra Duration for Successful Feral Slashes.
(+buff+) Friendship Bracelet:
Slightly (+4m) increase the Feral Frenzy Detection Range
Slightly (-4m) decrease The Killer's Terror Radius during the Feral Frenzy
UNCOMMON
(!new!) Defaced Smiley Pin:
Successful Feral Slashed Slightly (-0.075s) decrease the Feral Frenzy Vault time up to Tremendously (-0.3s)
(-nerf-) Etched Ruler:
Moderately (-2.5s) decrease the Feral Frenzy recharge time
(+buff+) Never-Sleep Pills:
Moderately (+8m) increase the Feral Frenzy Detection Range
Moderately (-8m) decrease The Killer's Terror Radius during the Feral Frenzy
(?other?) Julie's Mixtape:
Succussful Feral Slashes inflict Survivors with the Mangled Status Effect until fully healed
(!new!) Mural Sketch:
Moderately (+0.2s) increase the Extra Duration for Successful Feral Slashes.
RARE
(!new!) Legion Pin:
Successful Feral Slashes Slightly (-0.1s) decrease Feral Frenzy Fatigue time up to Tremendously (-0.4s)
(+buff+) Nasty Blade:
Slightly (+2s) Increase the time it takes to Mend from any Deep Wounds
(!new!) Stole Sketch Book:
Considerably (+0.3s) increase the Extra Duration for Successful Feral Slashes.
(+buff+) Susie's Mixtape:
Considerably (+16m) increase Feral Frenzy Detection Range
Considerably (-16m) decrease The Killer's Terror Radius during the Feral Frenzy
(!new!) Joey's Mixtape:
Successful Feral Slashes inflict Survivors with the Obvlivious Status Effect until fully mended
VERY RARE
(!new!) Cold Dirt:
Missing Feral Slash on a dropped Pallet or a Breakable Wall will instantly break it
(+buff+) Stab Wound Study:
Moderately (-5s) decrease the Deep Wounds timer.
(+buff+) Filthy Blade:
Moderately (+2.5s) increase the time it takes to Mend from any Deep Wounds
(!new!) Frank's Mixtape:
Each Successful Feral Slash earns you a Feral Token up to 4 Feral Tokens
When the Feral Frenzy Fatigue ends, spend all Feral Tokens to:
- 1 or more Feral Token: Slightly (+10%) increase your Movement speed for 5 seconds
- 2 or more Feral Tokens: Slightly (+10%) increase your Vaulting speed for 5 seconds
- 3 or more Feral Tokens: Slightly (+10%) increase all your Action speeds for 5 seconds
- 4 Feral Tokens: Slightly (+10%) increase your Basic Attack Recovery speed for 5 seconds
ULTRA RARE
(+buff+) Iridescent Button:
During Feral Frenzy, you gain Undetectable Status Effect
- This effect lingers until the end of the Feral Frenzy Fatigue
Any Pallet you vault during the Feral Frenzy is automatically destroyed
Feral Frenzy Deteciton Range affects the entire map
(+buff+) Fuming Mixtape:
During the Feral Frenzy, the progress of all generators can be determined by the intensity of their auras
Feral Frenzy Power Gauge starts depleting only after you Feral Slash a Survivor
Comments
Fuming Mixtape is a buff not new*
Franks Mixtape durations increased from 5 to 8 seconds
Franks Mixtape order changed to:
1: 10% Action Speed bonus
2: 10% Vaulting Speed bonus
3: 10% Movement Speed bonus
4: 10% Attack Recovery Speed bonus
I think duration needs to go up to 12 seconds, survivors spreading out is a problem. Some of the add-ons seem interesting though I don't think Smiley Face should change. Mending add-ons should be changed to movement speed add-ons.
personally dont think they should keep making Blindness addons unless they make it actually do anything, so far theyre as good as the meme addons.
Also keep in mind that ive already made Movement speed addon which makes legion go from 5.5ms to 6ms upon hitting 4 survivors, it isnt exactly a lot but when you consider how forgiving Frenzy is and what it can do if let it forgive every single mistake it becomes terribly designed power (re: 2.4.0)
I could see duration increase back to 10 base and +2s max cap being a thing though
I also think buffing addons to be somewhat in line with the current ones would be good as well as forgotten duration addons part to increase the max allowed bonus:
Mischief List:
+0.25s on each hit, +1s max cap (13s max total)
Mural Sketch:
+0.5 on each hit, +2 max cap (14s max total)
Stolen Sketch Book:
+0.75 on each hit, +3s max cap (15s max total)
Feel free to discuss more <3
I like some of yours, but what do you think of these?
Change Frenzy fatigue add-ons to reduce Frenzy fatigue by 10, 20, and 30%. This effect should be multiplicative. For example, if Frenzy is reduced to 2.4s by Cold Dirt, then 2 Slashes would reduce it to 2.112s for that Frenzy.
Change the Frenzy duration add-ons to 10, 20 and 30%.
Buff the Ruler add-ons to 2 and 4s.
Buff the Blade add-ons to 2 and 4s.
Change Frank’s Mix Tape to increase movement speed by 0.6m/s during Frenzy.
Change Susie's Mix Tape to increase movement speed by 0.4m/s during Frenzy.
Change Never-Sleep Pills to show Pools of Blood and Scratch Marks during a Frenzy.
Change Stab Wounds Study to inflict Exhaustion on survivors for 30s when Slashed. It should be longer here than with other add-ons since Legion often leaves the survivor immediately after Slashing.
Buff Iridescent Button to also increase Vaulting speed (Pallets and Windows) by 20%.
Buff Fuming Mixtape to also show the Auras of all survivors working on generators or totems during a Frenzy
These sound like a bit of an overkill and let me explain why:
Fatigue:
Fatigue is extremely tricky to balance on Legion due to the fact that funny vault-over-pallet-cancel-frenzy exists, which universally means that if Fatigue addons give too much value, or there are too many fatigue reducing stuff, youre removing the make-distance-while-legion-is-in-fatigue 1v1 counterplay. Reckon it does not mean you cant add Fatigue reduction, hence Legion Pin, which at max reduces Fatigue to 2.6 which is already a tiny bit less than breaking a pallet. Add Iri button and you break pallets effectively in 2.6s while also moving meantime similar to nemesis.
Universally: Multiplicatives on addons just sound a bit extra-steppy. Its easier to balance out a value when it doesnt multiply with itself 4 times and theres also 2 of them. imo, at least.
Duration:
Keep in mind that ive already buffed base kit duration as well as all addons across the board give more duration effectively than the current ones, capping at max 17s Frenzy on double duration. This already might become problematic bc of the buffed speed and base kit duration, tbf.
Rulers: I could argue Rulers would be a bit too strong if i were to buff them or, in your version, leave them as they are
(currently 2.5s / 3.5s, 6s total). Keep in mind that i made 2 imporant changes: Power recharges during fatigue + Base recharge reduced by 2 seconds (which are taken away from new Ruler addons: -2.5s -> -1.5s and -3.5s -> -2.5s), Effectively shaving off 6 seconds of Recharge for free, making it recharge not current 24s (20s recharge + 3s-4s depending on the fatigue) but exactly 18s.
Blades: Blades used to add a whole 8s to mending time of the survivors back in somewhere 2.4.0-ish. And it was a pretty boring type of gameplay. I didnt touch the numbers on the blades, they stay the same as current, but, instead, i made them affect any type of Deep Wound, rather than just The Legion's ones. So BT Deep Wounds now also take 12s -> 16.5s max to mend and so does any other non-Legion Deep Wound. Keep in mind that Deep Wounds Timer being reduced to 10s (5s with SWS) makes it a tiny bit more of a game slowdown since an optimal way of spending 12s+ on a genereator and then mending, effectively not losing or even gaining progress would be gone. 9s ideally of gen progress then taken by 12s mend action, effectively losing you at least 3 seconds.
Ideally you would run SWS and Filthy blade to maximize the progress trading.
Frank's Mixtape would probably be up to changes but i just think its a nice addon that allows to go out of your power straight into the chase.
its WIP though, true.
Susie's Mixtape (And Killer's Instinct addons in general):
There's already a buff to base Movement speed + Duration increasing the max distance you can run greatly, as well as an already existing Movement speed addon (Defaced Smiley Pin) Which brings Legion to 6ms at 4 stabs. Combined with basekit 12s duration you can run 72m which is as far as one end of some maps to the other. Killer's Instinct addons in this version add a more of a sneaky playstyle, since they increase your Detection but decrease your TR, giving survivors less time to react, Susie's Mixtape + Never-Sleep Pills make your killer's instinct whole 64m while also making your actual Terror Radius 8m while in Frenzy. (Also Legion seeing blood is a base kit change that ive made, no need to lock it behind an addon, imo)
30s Exhaustion no. if you inflict 30s exhaustion youre not gonna leave the survivor. They can do barely anything depending on your positioning.
Iridescent Butt:
I already have a Vaulting speed addon, again, making addons Jacks of all Trades is a terrible design. You shouldnt just get all the power from 1 addon, you need to choose either one or the other to combine with Iri Butt (Defaced Pin or Legion Pin) to maximize the value you get. Otherwise youd just run 20% Iri and Legion Pin for the funny vault over the pallet click M2
Fuming Mixtape: I could agree on a lot of things in this post, if theyre done correctly they would turn out pretty nice, but this one is an overkill no matter how you look at it. Press M2 to see every single survivor on the objectives you need them to prevent from doing, no drawback, no limit to aura reading, no nothing.
Im free to discuss more sorry for a big post i just really want Legion to be a better killer without just forcing them into being good :(