Can we talk about aura reading addons?

(Please read what I say and don't write it off)

I feel these need to be looked at as they give a powerful effect with almost no effort on the killers part. Addons like Wraith's all seeing addon, oni's bloody glove addon, blights, compound 21 addon and others all show survivors auras with little effort, often times to get the aura read you have to use your power which is not hard. And many of these don't have any drawbacks whatsoever.

This is a problem because aura reads is the best way to detect survivors, because there is no searching involved you see them right there.

Coupled this with the fact that survivors have only 1 aura reading addon, which is for a key that also has a big drawback, the survivor perks that hide aura are mediocre or terrible, and killers can stack aura reading addons with perks to completely find survivors all the time then it makes those addons a little over powered and need to be looked at.

Comments

  • If the OoO changes go through then many of your issues are solved.

  • @Mr_K said:

    If the OoO changes go through then many of your issues are solved.

    Actually nevermind I get it. But how long until it came out? Wasn't it supposed to come out with the DS change especially since people agreed with them

  • OoO will show the killer's aura whenever the killer sees your aura. If killer aura reading perks/addons really is a big issue, survivors will start to run it.

    Take note, the OoO downside is only for the obsession. Non-obsessions get free aura reading.

  • @Mr_K said:

    OoO will show the killer's aura whenever the killer sees your aura. If killer aura reading perks/addons really is a big issue, survivors will start to run it.

    Take note, the OoO downside is only for the obsession. Non-obsessions get free aura reading.

    Well yes I do agree but that doesn't take away from the fact that the aura read killers get from the addons take very little to achieve. Most require you to use your power which is not really that difficult.

  • the addons are fine and survivors don't have aura reading items on killer they have aura reading perks

    if you really don't like killers ability to see auras just use perks like

    alert

    kindred + open handed

    object of obsession

    dark sense

    babysitter

    breakdown


    or even counter with


    sole survivor

    distortion

    off the record


    but the killer does have to give up entire addon slots just to use aura reading and sometimes even more detrimental then giving up a slot like oni the aura reading addon even has downsides such that he can only use his power 1 - 2 times a game

  • None of the listed addons are really that problematic.

    Wraith's All Seeing addon has 12m range.

    Compound-21 aura reading duration is only 3 seconds so by the time Blight fatigue is over the aura reading is also over. It was also already nerfed.

    Oni's addon is an iri addon that basically sacrifices his power for aura tracking.

    @Mr_K said:

    If the OoO changes go through then many of your issues are solved.

    OoO wouldn't do much against Wraith's All Seeing or Myer's Scratched Mirror as both are undetectable and are immune to aura reading.

  • @bjorksnas said:

    the addons are fine and survivors don't have aura reading items on killer they have aura reading perks

    if you really don't like killers ability to see auras just use perks like

    alert

    kindred + open handed

    object of obsession

    dark sense

    babysitter

    breakdown

    or even counter with

    sole survivor

    distortion

    off the record

    but the killer does have to give up entire addon slots just to use aura reading and sometimes even more detrimental then giving up a slot like oni the aura reading addon even has downsides such that he can only use his power 1 - 2 times a game

    I'm Not concerned with killers reading my aura I'm more concerned with the fact that the addons take little effort to achieve which is concerning since aura reads are really powerful. And the counters survivors have aren't that good, sole survivor requires that your teammates dies in order to use its effects. Distortion had only 3 limted uses and doesn't stop the killer from putting on multiple aura reading perks with thr addons to take away your tokens and off the record only have its effects every time your hooked meaning you can only use it twice.

  • Those addons aren’t that strong tbh. Wraith’s is decent but windstorm is better. Oni’s glove hinders his blood fury rate and compound 21 is pretty strong but fair

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010765#Comment_2010765

    I'm Not concerned with killers reading my aura I'm more concerned with the fact that the addons take little effort to achieve which is concerning since aura reads are really powerful. And the counters survivors have aren't that good, sole survivor requires that your teammates dies in order to use its effects. Distortion had only 3 limted uses and doesn't stop the killer from putting on multiple aura reading perks with thr addons to take away your tokens and off the record only have its effects every time your hooked meaning you can only use it twice.

    There are plenty of things in the game that don't require effort and are still powerful. Not every add-on and perk in the game needs to have a drawback.

    If anything can be taken from this, it's that Distortion needs a buff.

  • @NomiNomad said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010778#Comment_2010778

    There are plenty of things in the game that don't require effort and are still powerful. Not every add-on and perk in the game needs to have a drawback.

    If anything can be taken from this, it's that Distortion needs a buff.

    Genuine question: is it really fair and balanced that not every strong thing has a drawback? And why?

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010765#Comment_2010765

    I'm Not concerned with killers reading my aura I'm more concerned with the fact that the addons take little effort to achieve which is concerning since aura reads are really powerful. And the counters survivors have aren't that good, sole survivor requires that your teammates dies in order to use its effects. Distortion had only 3 limted uses and doesn't stop the killer from putting on multiple aura reading perks with thr addons to take away your tokens and off the record only have its effects every time your hooked meaning you can only use it twice.

    So what that the addons are easy to use

    are we supposed to sudden jump through 99 hoops for a simple effect

    look at it this way

    when wraith has aura reading he is in his power and physically cannot attack you giving you an opportunity to get away so 12 meters aura reading on that is reasonable for a purple addon

    when blight is rushing you have to move fast before the survivor gets to something so either way if given information you either can be fast enough to act on it or look at it too long and slow yourself down missing hits so in a way he becomes even more skill based

    when pig is crouched I'm gonna stop this one here no one uses pigs aura reading addon

    when oni gives up and entire build and using his power for aura reading on top of needing a iridecent addon to do so its fine because he is still a m1 115% speed killer for the rest of the match then

    plagues one is really the only one that should be nerfed

    huntresses one is fun but most people never use it

    myers one is fine but no one really uses them except for scratched mirror even then 105% speed isn't fun

    doctor has to pay attention to white auras around the map or doesn't even get any use of it

    hag just gets them on her traps at the cost of an addon slot which is a lot for a killer that has, mint rag, silent traps, faster setting traps, and more trap teleport range all at her disposal so its for example giving up an additional 25% teleport range for slightly more consistent trap hits or hook camps

    cannibal is back revving with his addon only

    freddy is dream pallet auras only which isn't that useful since no one really disarms dream pallets

    clown is clown and needs it because its a little bit of help

    legion can read gens spooky

    demo can read injured survivors auras well traversing, other than the fact he can't freely look around and people rarely use the portals this is op op

    ghostface caught on tape is alright especially if you down someone while undetectable it just reveals everyone

    deathslingers hellshire iron has never been used by anyone who plays deathslinger as far as I have seen

    executioner can use their addon they would never trade out because they are too busy using ranged addons to see survivors who are tormented when they send a tormented survivor to a cage

    twins need all the help they can get

    overall 4-5 addons pretty easy to use and 1 of them that is blatantly strong and needs to be looked at so why don't you make a informed analysis of that one instead of making an uninformed blanketed statement towards a fair subset of addons that make the game more interesting or would you rather killers all have a blindness addon or hemorrhage addons instead

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010793#Comment_2010793

    Genuine question: is it really fair and balanced that not every strong thing has a drawback? And why?

    It wouldn't be fair to say that aura reading addons have no drawbacks. You give up other addons that improve your power for aura reading.

    In some cases the aura reading does come at a cost. Oni's Bloody Glove means he'll have less Blood Fury uses. Pig's Amanda's Letter means she has only 1 trap and only 2 boxes. Myer's Scratched and Vanity Mirrors cap his Evil Within Tier.

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010793#Comment_2010793

    Genuine question: is it really fair and balanced that not every strong thing has a drawback? And why?

    Iron Will has no drawback.

    Spine Chill has no drawback.

    Prove Thyself has no drawback.

    Enduring has no drawback.

    Pop has no drawback.

    Nurse's Calling has no drawback.

    Bringing a medkit has no drawback.

    Bringing a toolbox has no drawback.

    Judith's Memorial has no drawback.

    Chewed Pen has no drawback.

    Plenty of add-ons for killer powers and items have no drawback. Batteries have no drawback. After the update, Windstorm will have no drawback. This is the case for most add-ons.

    I could go on and on. If we were to add a drawback to everything strong in the game, that'd be ALOT to look at.

  • @bjorksnas said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010778#Comment_2010778

    So what that the addons are easy to use

    are we supposed to sudden jump through 99 hoops for a simple effect

    look at it this way

    when wraith has aura reading he is in his power and physically cannot attack you giving you an opportunity to get away so 12 meters aura reading on that is reasonable for a purple addon

    when blight is rushing you have to move fast before the survivor gets to something so either way if given information you either can be fast enough to act on it or look at it too long and slow yourself down missing hits so in a way he becomes even more skill based

    when pig is crouched I'm gonna stop this one here no one uses pigs aura reading addon

    when oni gives up and entire build and using his power for aura reading on top of needing a iridecent addon to do so its fine because he is still a m1 115% speed killer for the rest of the match then

    plagues one is really the only one that should be nerfed

    huntresses one is fun but most people never use it

    myers one is fine but no one really uses them except for scratched mirror even then 105% speed isn't fun

    doctor has to pay attention to white auras around the map or doesn't even get any use of it

    hag just gets them on her traps at the cost of an addon slot which is a lot for a killer that has, mint rag, silent traps, faster setting traps, and more trap teleport range all at her disposal so its for example giving up an additional 25% teleport range for slightly more consistent trap hits or hook camps

    cannibal is back revving with his addon only

    freddy is dream pallet auras only which isn't that useful since no one really disarms dream pallets

    clown is clown and needs it because its a little bit of help

    legion can read gens spooky

    demo can read injured survivors auras well traversing, other than the fact he can't freely look around and people rarely use the portals this is op op

    ghostface caught on tape is alright especially if you down someone while undetectable it just reveals everyone

    deathslingers hellshire iron has never been used by anyone who plays deathslinger as far as I have seen

    executioner can use their addon they would never trade out because they are too busy using ranged addons to see survivors who are tormented when they send a tormented survivor to a cage

    twins need all the help they can get

    overall 4-5 addons pretty easy to use and 1 of them that is blatantly strong and needs to be looked at so why don't you make a informed analysis of that one instead of making an uninformed blanketed statement towards a fair subset of addons that make the game more interesting or would you rather killers all have a blindness addon or hemorrhage addons instead

    Ok then calm down I was just expressing my concerns for something no need to be rude. I just thought at first they didn't have any downsides because being able to see auras is the most powerful tracking in the game.

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010804#Comment_2010804

    Ok then calm down I was just expressing my concerns for something no need to be rude. I just thought at first they didn't have any downsides because being able to see auras is the most powerful tracking in the game.

    I understand that from an outside perspective they might not have any downsides but looking at one side of the picture isn't how you see the whole thing sometimes the best way to understand something is to take a step back and take in the big picture

  • @bjorksnas said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010820#Comment_2010820

    I understand that from an outside perspective they might not have any downsides but looking at one side of the picture isn't how you see the whole thing sometimes the best way to understand something is to take a step back and take in the big picture

    Ok after looking at the other responses I think I'm convinced and I might have been looking at things from one side and not looking at the whole picture.

    Thank you for informing me.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    Just another thing unrelated to the post: survivors should really use Alert more. It's such a powerful aura reading perk and I barely see people running it. Unless the killer is a Nurse chances are he'll be kicking gens/pallets/breakable walls on a good portion of the match. It's almost as good as OoO on telling you where the killer is and it also helps in chases.

    Alert is a great perk, but it tends to be the one I'll replace with Kindred if I have that one instead.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    Just another thing unrelated to the post: survivors should really use Alert more. It's such a powerful aura reading perk and I barely see people running it. Unless the killer is a Nurse chances are he'll be kicking gens/pallets/breakable walls on a good portion of the match. It's almost as good as OoO on telling you where the killer is and it also helps in chases.

    I have used alert. It's really good

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010793#Comment_2010793

    Genuine question: is it really fair and balanced that not every strong thing has a drawback? And why?

    Perhaps the lack of a drawback is what makes them strong, and adding a drawback no longer makes it strong?