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Buffing demo to move him from the bottom to the top

EntitySpawn EntitySpawn
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So the biggest issue with demo atm is his portals and add-ons. the reason for this is it can take demo awhile to set up around the map meaning you need to do this while controlling gens, getting hits and doing chases for you to even be in a decent position and then those portals can be destroyed pretty quick meaning youll have to walk out your way to set up again when you need to pressure gens, the fix?

Better and stronger fix: X amount of portals are spawned around the maps, these can be destroyed but will auto replace within the same place after X seconds. Demo can still place a few portals for abit more freedom/control, these portals dont respawn and must be replaced, Auto placed portals will also not auto spawn until 20seconds in the match (stop him transversing instantly)

Likely a Quicker fix: Demo still has to place portals manually, these portals will respawn after X seconds reducing the need to cross the map just to place a portal. Portals have a refund mechanic (like hag)

What do you think? These changes allow survivors and demo to interact with the portals like normal keeping all the animations and work already put into them but gives demo the extra strength of saving time of manually doing these actions constantly. his shred is fine and actually good with rat liver. (new add-ons can spawn more portals in map by default, allow them to respawn slightly faster etc.)

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  • Altarf Altarf

    @EntitySpawn said:

    So the biggest issue with demo atm is his portals and add-ons. the reason for this is it can take demo awhile to set up around the map meaning you need to do this while controlling gens, getting hits and doing chases for you to even be in a decent position and then those portals can be destroyed pretty quick meaning youll have to walk out your way to set up again when you need to pressure gens, the fix?

    Better and stronger fix: X amount of portals are spawned around the maps, these can be destroyed but will auto replace within the same place after X seconds. Demo can still place a few portals for abit more freedom/control, these portals do respawn and must be replaced, they will also not auto spawn until 20seconds in the match (stop him transversing instantly)

    Likely a Quicker fix: Demo still has to place portals manually, these portals will respawn after X seconds reducing the need to cross the map just to place a portal. Portals have a refund mechanic (like hag)

    What do you think? These changes allow survivors and demo to interact with the portals like normal keeping all the animations and work already put into them but gives demo the extra strength of saving time of manually doing these actions constantly. his shred is fine and actually good with rat liver. (new add-ons can spawn more portals in map by default, allow them to respawn slightly faster etc.)

    Honestly, I don't think the portals need a giant rework like this. Having portals spawn on the map by themselves would give demo the best early game out of any killer that isn't freddy using the completely fair freddy tech that i'm surprised more people don't use. He could just instantly set down a portal and teleport to the opposite end of the map, starting a chase near insantly. Part of the drawback of the portals' potential strength is the set up time; as mediocre as they are currently, removing the set up time would tip them over the edge into oppressive, especially if they respawned. I think just making rat tail (at least somewhat) basekit, and making the portals less clunky to use would almost entirely fix them.

    My suggestion is make some form of rat tail basekit, increase the speed at which demo moves through the upside down to portals by default, and buff the undetectable after leaving a portal to 4-5 seconds. Then just change his addons. Just my opinion, though.

  • EntitySpawn EntitySpawn

    @Altarf said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/214154/buffing-demo-to-move-him-from-the-bottom-to-the-top

    Honestly, I don't think the portals need a giant rework like this. Having portals spawn on the map by themselves would give demo the best early game out of any killer that isn't freddy using the completely fair freddy tech that i'm surprised more people don't use. He could just instantly set down a portal and teleport to the opposite end of the map, starting a chase near insantly. Part of the drawback of the portals' potential strength is the set up time; as mediocre as they are currently, removing the set up time would tip them over the edge into oppressive, especially if they respawned. I think just making rat tail (at least somewhat) basekit, and making the portals less clunky to use would almost entirely fix them.

    My suggestion is make some form of rat tail basekit, increase the speed at which demo moves through the upside down to portals by default, and buff the undetectable after leaving a portal to 4-5 seconds. Then just change his addons. Just my opinion, though.

    well iv been playing him alot at rank 1 (about 45games atm iv got a bunch of cakes left lol) but the biggest issue i have with him is getting set up and keeping the portals up, like you say freddy can go to gens and thats honestly what makes him strong and if demo has a weaker version where survivors could destroy the portals its less annoying as freddy. Obviously all ideas are good and it just sucks his best and reliable add-on is a brown, id just hate to see a small pointless change and the devs call it a day. i hardly ever verse demos and he does need some love, i do understand how my idea would take more time and balancing though the get the timings such a respawns, cooldowns etc. right

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