any means necessary needs a buff

joshuashep22

While being far from useless when combined with the dumb tech two minutes is far too long for a perk that rarely gets any action anyway, it needs an additional effect like a counter to enduring or something that makes it worth while.

Gravewalker200

are you suggesting like an extra 5 to 10% stun time or am I reading it wrong

ZtarShot

Picking up pallets is powerful, but I get what you mean, because good killers just break 'em

Anara

Any means necessary + windows of opportunity is a great combo, I reset minimum of 2 or 3 pallets per game, I think it's fine.

But yeah 2 minutes can be long, maybe 1m 30sec?

dspaceman20

@Anara said:

Any means necessary + windows of opportunity is a great combo, I reset minimum of 2 or 3 pallets per game, I think it's fine.

But yeah 2 minutes can be long, maybe 1m 30sec?

I don't think we should have to pair it with Windows Of Opportunity in order to get anything mostly useful out of it. To buff it i would say to make it see the auras of dropped Pallets since one off the big things that hold me back from using it is not knowing where a pallet has been dropped

Milo

Reduce the cd by half.

LastShoe

@ZtarShot said:

Picking up pallets is powerful, but I get what you mean, because good killers just break 'em

Laughs in nurse/huntress/doctor/hag/trapper and some unsafe pallets.

Anara

@dspaceman20 said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1591064#Comment_1591064

I don't think we should have to pair it with Windows Of Opportunity in order to get anything mostly useful out of it. To buff it i would say to make it see the auras of dropped Pallets since one off the big things that hold me back from using it is not knowing where a pallet has been dropped

I think a good player should not use windows of opportunity because he knows the maps better than me, but the buff you said is clearly my combo any means + windows of .... so it would make windows of opportunity useless...

I'm this kind of player that love to make combo of perks, I know that one perk alone can be good but I like synergy stuff

dspaceman20

@Anara said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1591076#Comment_1591076

I think a good player should not use windows of opportunity because he knows the maps better than me, but the buff you said is clearly my combo any means + windows of .... so it would make windows of opportunity useless...

I'm this kind of player that love to make combo of perks, I know that one perk alone can be good but I like synergy stuff

But Window's show the auras of vaults, breakable walls, and pallets regardless of if they are dropped or not. the buff i suggested only shows them when down, so windows would still have more versatility. plus windows has a range so if an unbroken dropped pallet is across the map from where you are you you wouldn't know making you get less usage out of any means necessary, I feel that with the buff the synergy would still work with this buff to any means necessary.

Crowman

One thing the perk really needs is some points for resetting a pallet.

Anara

@dspaceman20 said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1591232#Comment_1591232

But Window's show the auras of vaults, breakable walls, and pallets regardless of if they are dropped or not. the buff i suggested only shows them when down, so windows would still have more versatility. plus windows has a range so if an unbroken dropped pallet is across the map from where you are you you wouldn't know making you get less usage out of any means necessary, I feel that with the buff the synergy would still work with this buff to any means necessary.

If the buff you said happened, I wouldn't use anymore windows of opportunity.. Instead of showing the aura of a drop pallet maybe it should alert you with something, a sound or whatever like some perks do?