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Question About Hatch

PipPipCheerioYe PipPipCheerioYe
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Why is it that a killer can block a survivor from entering the hatch by standing in the middle of it, but the survivor cannot block the killer from closing the hatch by sitting in the middle of it?

I was just in a match with a face camping and tunneling Shape. My teammate killed himself on hook because I knew where the hatch was. However, by the time he finally died and the hatch was open, the killer managed to find me and shut the hatch right as it opened, even though I was standing on the middle of it and spamming R1 to jump in.

Thoughts about this?

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  • Slival Slival

    A killer can close a hatch a /fraction/ of a second before a survivor can jump in, and will generally win hatch standoffs. If the killer manages to make it to the hatch before you do, despite having to juggle everything, and despite you and your teammate using out of game coordination to time the moment your friend stops struggling, the killer deserves to get the closure. If you see the killer near the hatch, or see him coming, and you don't think it'll open in time, then run to a gate because the instant the killer slams it you'll be able to start opening the gate no matter how many gens you had left. You might have to mindgame a little.

    I think it is fair for the killer to win hatch standoffs if they manage to get to the hatch even in the face of out-of-game comms coordination, juggling and killing 4 survivors, and having to chase you there. Think about it, if the killer hits you from full health, you're probably gonna use that sprint burst to beat him to the hatch. If the killer gets stunned, you'll probably beat him to the hatch, the end game chase is ridiculously survivor-favored, so in the circumstance where in spite of that the killer manages to make it to the hatch simultaneously with you? I'm okay with the killer's hatch closure overriding.

  • Archimedes5000 Archimedes5000

    @PipPipCheerioYe said:

    Why is it that a killer can block a survivor from entering the hatch by standing in the middle of it, but the survivor cannot block the killer from closing the hatch by sitting in the middle of it?

    I was just in a match with a face camping and tunneling Shape. My teammate killed himself on hook because I knew where the hatch was. However, by the time he finally died and the hatch was open, the killer managed to find me and shut the hatch right as it opened, even though I was standing on the middle of it and spamming R1 to jump in.

    Thoughts about this?

    Because every killer is fatter than every survivior.

    This is literally the only reason there is and the only one we need.

  • Archimedes5000 Archimedes5000

    @Slival said:

    A killer can close a hatch a /fraction/ of a second before a survivor can jump in, and will generally win hatch standoffs. If the killer manages to make it to the hatch before you do, despite having to juggle everything, and despite you and your teammate using out of game coordination to time the moment your friend stops struggling, the killer deserves to get the closure. If you see the killer near the hatch, or see him coming, and you don't think it'll open in time, then run to a gate because the instant the killer slams it you'll be able to start opening the gate no matter how many gens you had left. You might have to mindgame a little.

    I think it is fair for the killer to win hatch standoffs if they manage to get to the hatch even in the face of out-of-game comms coordination, juggling and killing 4 survivors, and having to chase you there. Think about it, if the killer hits you from full health, you're probably gonna use that sprint burst to beat him to the hatch. If the killer gets stunned, you'll probably beat him to the hatch, the end game chase is ridiculously survivor-favored, so in the circumstance where in spite of that the killer manages to make it to the hatch simultaneously with you? I'm okay with the killer's hatch closure overriding.

    Actually hatch closing and grabs are the only cases where killer action does not override survivior action, so what matters is who presses the button first.

    I think his problem was because killer hitbox is so big that it blocks the whole hatch

  • Fibijean Fibijean

    @Archimedes5000 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1121670#Comment_1121670

    Actually hatch closing and grabs are the only cases where killer action does not override survivior action, so what matters is who presses the button first.

    I think his problem was because killer hitbox is so big that it blocks the whole hatch

    Far from the only case. But you're correct about this being one scenario in which neither side is favoured.

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