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@Kamikaze_Rose said:
I'd love it if we were constantly "falling asleep" and needed to go to coffee machines or something to wake ourselves up. Anything that will prolong the game so that Freddy doesn't get obliterated as usual.
I kinda like that.
I should add, finally, that not doing anything (if the crows arrive) puts you into Dream State as well.
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What about this:
Freddy is invisible, but you can hear his terror radius. But he can't attack you... unless...
Unless the survivor makes a mistake:
Missing a skill check or getting a normal skill check will put in you in dream state. Same with healing. Anything that is not a perfect skill check puts you into a dream instantly.
Freddy is revealed to you. He can now attack you. (unless he's not next to you, either way he is free to attack you)
If 3 survivors are on a gen, if one of them misses a skill check (or it's not perfect), everyone on the generator gets put in dream state instantly.
Anyone who heals you and doesn't get a perfect skill check puts you into a dream and the healer into a dream at the same time.
If you heal yourself and don't get a perfect skill check -- your in the dream instantly as well.
Only WOKE survivors can wake you up or getting hooked.
Freddy does not have to be next to you to go into dream state. You can have 4 people on different generators -- each one can miss a skill check, one after the other, and they can all suddenly be in dream state -- with Freddy not having to do anything.
In addition cleaning a totem or sabotaging a hook puts you in dream state as well.
You can add more ways to fall into dream state:
Such as fast vaulting or fast jumping into lockers.
You can add as many conditions until its balanced (or take away conditions of going to dream state until it's balanced).
But Freddy doesn't put you into dream state... your mistakes do.
Also, one last thing. The WOKE survivors that try to wake you up only have like a (insert number here )% chance of waking you up. It they miss a 2nd time, time -- either A) you wake up or B) you stay asleep and now they're asleep too.
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This is a very valid point.
Maybe introduce a restriction, Freddy can't interact with anyone while invisible. Only until the Survivor reveals him on purpose or by mistake.
But he can still break pallets and gens.
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@Fres0c0 said:
What I got out of this is Freddy gets free hit and you can't throw down pallets
Are we trying to move him from worse to so overpowered he becomes the mosted hated killer in the game
Really? You didn't get the part about, being in a dream state -- and not knowing it? Or running up to a survivor to try to wake you up, only to find out, you're both in the dream state!
Furthermore, you have to convince survivors to wake you. If Freddy stays hidden longer, he can put everyone to sleep -- so no one can wake anyone up. So, this will keep him from wanting to attack to early.
Because then he will be revealed to at least one survivor. The others dont even know who the killer is, the longer he stays hidden not simply attacking the first person that walks by.
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But forcing a killer to 'come out' (be revealed) by things that a Survivor does is new in this game. Typically, a killer reveals himself at his own voilition.
In this version of the game, Killer can only reveal himself by attacking -- only way.
Unless, the Survivor outs him, through the Nightmare tests.
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How would Freddy be apparent and still not be in Dream State? Like the Doctor?
Just appears and vanishes. I think that's already a thing.
I believe that people should have no indication they're in a dream, if they see Freddy immediately, then they know they're in a dream. THey have to force Freddy to come out (reveal himself) through a Nightmare Test. If they can't get certain tasks to work, then Fredy Appears, because now you know... you're in a dream.
Unless Freddy reveals himself to you before you are ready, by attacking you.
I think this is actually pretty cool, in my opinion.
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Well, we would restore the use of pallets.
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Then restore the use of pallet. Hopefully that balances it out.
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I see your point. Making Freddy have to strike 3 times is an option I suppose.
But, yes, it may need some balance.
However, some of these killers have 1 hit downs perks and addons already.
If this 'free hit' makes Freddy a 1 hit down killer (though technically 2 hits), how is it different from Myers or some of the others who actually do have 1 hit down perks.
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Kind of like 'finding a glitch' in the Matrix.
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Or Freddy attacks you first. Then he reveals himself at that point. But, putting you in a dream never reveals him. Only if he attacks (or you find out by finding a NIGHTMARE CLUE).
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Freddy would be invisible until he attacks. Pretty sure in the movies, Freddy didn't reveal himself in the dream world until after they knew they were in a dream. He can reveal himself right away as well, but that defeats the purpose of being in a dream world and not knowing it, if you see Freddy right away. Then it will never be a surprise. The idea is to carry on, for several seconds (even minutes) without knowing you've been asleep the entire time. Unless you look for clues.
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Here's the 3 main take aways, if I had to sum it up.
- The survivor can not know that he's in a dream, if he has been put to sleep. But, there will be NIGHTMARE CLUES that he has to look for to test if he's in a dream.
- When he or she finds out they are in a dream state, they have to convince the other survivors to wake them up. By pointing, squatting, running around, etc (as you no longer will have a bent head -- you will look perfectly normal, you will look awake).
- The person you are trying to tell that you are asleep... may be asleep as well. And neither you or they will know it, unless they look for NIGHTMARE CLUES themselves. So, you may be trying to get someone to wake you up, that can't wake you up because they're in the nightmare with you and not know it!!!
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I just had to get these ideas out of my head. I'm pretty sure I'm very late to the game. And I'm pretty sure alot of these ideas have been brought up already.
I was just trying to hash out the ideas as best that I could.