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@Atrushan88 said:
@morgallaala Yeah, but League of Legends has a ton more to grind on, and you still "climb" with a "normal MMR"(League's normal queues don't depend on rank, they have their own MMR separate from ranked). DBD wouldn't place a limit on SWF(I've suggested it in ranked and people had a fit), meaning a red ranker will SWF with 2 brown rankers and then you're that solo player who's stuck in a game with 2 brown ranks and one red rank.
League was my example on how to work on the ranking system, but again, people have fits when they find out they won't be able to play with their brown ranked friends as a red ranker and bully killers/ruin solos experience. The only way I would ever play as a solo in a SWF queue would be if I were given double bloodpoints just for being in it. It's miserable.
I play LoL as well, I would hope MMR would be implemented in this too, but that would be asking too much at once. This is simply make two gamemodes, one that is ranked and one that is casual, and if you want to play SWF you HAVE to play on the casual mode. The casual mode is not just a SWF fix, it's a fix for many things. Killers and survivors can both use this gamemode to practice which is something seriously lacking in dbd. New players are forced into playing competitively the first time they play the game, and they are constantly paired with players who have hundreds if not thousands of hours and have legacy even though it shouldn't be like that. I know many new players don't return to the game because of this reason. Then players in red ranks who get bored of playing against the same killers (nurses, billies, and huntresses almost every single game because those are the most viable killers in red ranks) can pick a different gamemode where players are more inclined to play killers they aren't used to because their pips aren't effected.
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@Atrushan88 said:
@morgallaala I see a lot of survivor streamers/youtubers staying in red ranks actually. But being paired with a group of brown rank and one red ranks is NEVER fun. Your idea is interesting, sure, but I can't imagine playing a game where I wouldn't pip or depip. I like the ranking system as it tells me how well I'm doing. Literally only receiving blood points is kind of boring imo. I mean it's good for leveling your characters, but you already receive blood points and I don't like being paired with brown rankers who will let me die on first hook.
Almost every competitive game has a mode where you don't rank up, like league of legends normal queues and overwatch quick plays. Many players use these gamemodes because they simply enjoy the game casually, want to practice heroes or builds they aren't familiar with before playing them competitively, or want to play with their friends. Also their quick plays and normal queues still depend on the player's rank, so if dbd were to integrate this, no one realistically should get paired with a brown rank when they are red, purple, etc.
Since playing with their friends offers a huge disadvantage for the other team, both of the games I mentioned also have measures in order to prevent what's happening in dbd, which is SWF making the game unbalanced. League has only a solo/duo queue for LP and a separate system completely for teams, and overwatch does not let you play competitively with your friends that are 1000 points away from you. This is literally just an integration of successful balancing in other games.
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@Atrushan88 said:
I can't imagine any solo player that would wanna get in with a SWF group. SWF groups generally consist of one high ranked and 2 rank 20s who won't do anything but generators. If you get hooked they let you get to stage 2 or even die on the hook. If their friend is on the hook, and you are too, no matter how close to stage 2 or 3 you are, they will go for their friend who just got hooked. I think solo survivors would need more BP than killers to get lumped into a SWF group. You usually get screwed hardcore.
I disagree, plenty of people including the biggest survivor main streamers purposefully depip either by doing poorly in matches or dcing, both of which screw over the rest of the team. This is an easy way to play the game without needing to dc or to be an awful teammate because playing those matches won't affect your pips. Also a new player in any game would choose to play unranked matches before playing ranked ones, and SWF gives them that choice. I was honestly shocked when I first opened dbd and realized it doesn't present new players with any kind of learning options other than very basic tutorials and KYF; any other gamemode causes you to immediately get placed in the ranking system.