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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/419476#Comment_419476
Your argument is not about counters, it's about fun. Those things I mentioned are not fun. For the record, though, camping has counters.
Yea theyre not Fun but you can do it something to have better game... And if he camps you cant do anything mb you can pick up kindred but it is still bad vs camper... You must be extreanly good to run Away a camper (you must have boro... time) so There is 1 sick good counter but you must be good and run escape but still its not What i want. I want to do that camp will be extream unprofit so lot of bad killers camps and with this on rank 1 you 100# play vs normal killer and you have big chance on rank 15-20 that you play vs camper. In the killer will need more skill to play.. if he cant camp
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/419289#Comment_419289
You could avoid getting hooked by winning at stealth and winning chases. Regardless, that isn't your argument. Your argument is that it's "not fun". Well, neither is getting stunned, looped, blinded, or genrushed, just to name a few. So let's removed anything that can stun (pallets and perks), remove all walls and windows, and remove all generators. Because it's "not fun".
"Well, neither is getting stunned, looped, blinded, or genrushed, just to name a few." Stunned by palet.. you can moonwalk so dodge the stun, to counter loop you can flick your mouse,blinded-lightborn,genrush-hexruin,getting blocked by stw when someone wiggle- mad grid.. there are lot of counters. And i think there isnt any counter vs camp
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@RSB said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/418435#Comment_418435
Stop getting found first, tbagging, being a toxic surv, learn to juke/stealth and you will be fine.
How come I was camped maybe 10 times in my life, but some individuals like you are "camped 8 of 10 times"?
PS. Stop being entitled, thank you. You are new, you don't know ######### about this game, play both sides, and you will see.
PS2. "when killer chase someone fot 10min its bcs he is bad... so its about skill.. when killer camps you its not about skill bcs you cant do anything..."; "ts bad argument that killers getting stunned by pallets.. bcs pallets are not infinty and you cant repair it... hook will repair.. and if you are good killer you wont have a problem with killing survival"; "first im not new.. and the second if youre playing normal this nerf will not works on you bcs it will works on campers... so if you are not camper you will be ok so what is your problem about it?" - your own words are the best weapon to break your "arguments". You are new, you are biased, you don't know how to play this game, nor you can't realize how your "fix" will ######### up every killer in this game.
Think, buddy, think. And play both sides.
Camping at rank 18 is normal so if you are afk they will camp you..
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/418870#Comment_418870
Let's remove pallet stuns, since they're not fun for killers.
I thought I told you already that "not fun" is not an argument.
Survival on hook cant do anything only wait or pressing space... And when Killer got stunned by pallet its about sill he can dodge that palet
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@Frozenscum said:
I do play surv with my friends sometimes, and if any Killer goes for camping strategy, beeing it me on hook or someone else, we just work around it. Not a single camping Killer will stay till death on hook, when gens are popping around. He will eventually go and your team will have time for save attempts, also if you play as SWF you can have some of ppl have Borrowed Time to help with saves.
Once again - Killer is not there to provide you fun, he is there to kill you and have fun himself. And he is not obliged to play by some made-up rules that allow survivors free unhooks and easy life. Just work around it and deal with it in-game. The sooner you get it, the sooner you'll be better with game and different tactics and sooner you'll start to have fun at any situations.
I didnt play for long time so i lost my rank im at rank 17 i started to play Yesterday.. i played 10 games mb and 8 times killer camp.. i playing solo so its hard to work around it bcs theyre not too good so its hard.. and if i play with friends we usually playing vs 13-5 rank killers.. theyre camping too and when they pop the gen.. he dont care ane he still waitin for my death.. so with my idea i think that 80# killers that camp right know will stop camping and game will be more fun for survival and it will be more about skill for Killer and i think it will be more Fun for the killer..
Its a game and we playing games to not getting bored with many facecampers that game Will be boring.. games should be fun
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@Frozenscum said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/418495#Comment_418495
You should quit this game then, you clearly dont understand its nature at Killer's behalf.
Tunneling is bad too but it still better.. but facecamping is 100# not part of the game... Camping is not part of the game too but its still better then facecamp.. i think youre not playing survival so you wont any killer nerf.. but 95# od survival hates camping.. and for many people is boring to getting camped.. same as camping with killer it is boring too but many bad killere doing this.
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i dont think that camping and tunneling is part of the game..
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i getting tilted bcs of camping and its boring for me to play vs it.. bcs if he get my friend its about him or me.. +camping with letherface is the worst thing that you can play vs... bcs you cant save your frien you must let him die
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/418454#Comment_418454
So how many hours do you have? I've been assuming you're new because your complaints are typical of new players, but if that's not the case, I apologize.
Occasionally, camping is the best tactical decision a killer can make. When the gates are powered and open, when survivors are buzzing around the hook, Dying Light, and a bunch of other situations. For those reasons alone, I am against any punishment for camping, regardless of my own playstyle.
Then there's the fact that the killer, as the power role, should be free to do as they please with the weak role, survivors. Survivors don't get on the hook by themselves, the killer had to do his job to put them there. Why should the killer then be punished for trying to make sure that survivor dies? Camping is already the worst thing the killer can do, since it means he lacks map pressure.
This would be like introducing a mechanic that forces survivors to get hit by the killer every time they complete a generator, and if they don't get hit, they can't complete a generator.
"camping is the best tactical decision a killer can make. When the gates are powered and open, when survivors are buzzing around the hook" ok in late will be change but if you camp in early game its bad... in late camp is not ok too but its better then in early.. still if killer have noed its worst... i think that you are killer player i think that youre not playing survival.. bcs lot of peoples that play survival are getting tilted bcs of campers
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first im not new.. and the second if youre playing normal this nerf will not works on you bcs it will works on campers... so if you are not camper you will be ok so what is your problem about it?
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/418435#Comment_418435
It's not fun for killers when they're stunned by pallets.
"Fun" is not an argument for butchering a tactic, especially when that tactic already has counters and is inherently bad for the person who engages in it.
its bad argument that killers getting stunned by pallets.. bcs pallets are not infinty and you cant repair it... hook will repair.. and if you are good killer you wont have a problem with killing survival
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there is a problem that you have only 1 life on hook.. bcs they camp you until you die
and its not fun anymore when i play 10 games and 8 games i play vs camper
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its hard to play on lower ranks or play with firend with low rank... we playing with friends and killer with rank 8 camp.. and its very boring when you cant do anything and your team must let you die... i dont know your rank but on rank 20-15 its normal to camp.. so the game will be better bcs very bad killers will camp so they will be low rank and players thats play like rank 5 and they are rank 15 bcs every killer camps them will be higher so it will be good for everyone..
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@MegsAreEvil said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/417733#Comment_417733
Just because they used false prerequisites and dindt changd them to further testing. That not an argument against this idea.
Camping needs to be harder adressed as well as tunneling. My statisticts throughout the last season says that during legit games (4vs1) almost 75% of the killers were camping and/or tunneling. That one of the biggest issues in the game besides DCs.
yea if they upgrade my idea it can be good.. it can be very good system but it will be hard to creat it good
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@DocOctober said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/418228#Comment_418228
Speaking about the "fun" part.
Do you think having to chase a single Survivor for minutes at a time is fun for the Killer?
I'll answer that for you: it isn't. The "fun" argument is not applicable here unless we are holding Killers to a different standard than Survivors, which would be hypocritical.
when killer chase someone fot 10min its bcs he is bad... so its about skill.. when killer camps you its not about skill bcs you cant do anything...
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i mean that they cant do anything for you.still they do mb 3gens.. with my idea they can do all gens so camp will be extra unprofit
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it will be cool but the killers cant see you good
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yea you are right... but its not fun.. when he chase you 10min and after he catch you and facecamp and your team cant do anything.. i think this game is not about camping
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@PeepingPeacock said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/417806#Comment_417806
If you consider staying at a low rank to be good then yea, camping is rewarding that by degrading the chaser emblem and causing lost games. With no rank rewards there's no reason to want to rank other than playing against better players, achievements, or bragging rights.
Another way to lower camping without rewarding killers, would be putting in the "free kindred" idea the devs had, so that every survivor would know when to do gens if the killer is camping. Thats a massive buff for solo survivors and pointless for SWF so some balance adjustments would have to be made but that would also work.
Its just pointless to "nerf" camping because its already the bad play to make and the people who do it don't care that they are losing by doing it. Everyone that's high rank will tell you that camping is bad unless survivors are swarming the hook. It's not something you want to be doing and by nerfing it you only open up survivors to abuse the killer around hooks, like the OP's change did when they tested it.
yea camping is bad.. but many bad killers have noed and you dont have a time to find hex totem...so you cant save your friend.. and i said if the survival will be in hook radius it will be normal like now... so killer cant be solo in the hook radius
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still kiler can catch friend or someone.. and still he can camp :D so we lost 1 survival and mb we got only 1 gen