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I'm not saying all the perks...
Just this one, why is it such a problem for it being a hex perk?
It wouldn't change anything about the perk itself just being able to get rid of it.
If we are talking about all perks I think that ALL the aura reading perks need some limitations to them.
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@emptyCups said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1033291#Comment_1033291
Most of the time I get caught is because other survivors freak out and don't know the game.
but all I see is a bunch of killers that have no skill
Not everyone in this game has TIME to be the best in the game.
There is no such thing as sneaking around in this game anymore
I myself watch these videos about looping and I loop the killer but even if I do so it doesn't stop the abilities of other survivor
You tell me to go into a locker or walk the other way or do this and that but the thing is I DO, DO THAT.
We could only do about 0 to 1 generators because the killer would find someone and hook them and I would either RUN TOWARDS THE HOOKED PERSON
I play with 1 friend and me and him usually 95% of the time are the last two survivors cause the other survivors keep getting caught and don't know the game
game I know how to counter the perk but OTHER survivors don't.
hooked which should happen about 12 times in a match meaning the killer has 12 chances to find someone using this perk,
Some maps don't have lockers close enough.
The killer has many ways to find a survivor but telling me that I need to go into a locker or hide behind a gen ever hook is kinda disrupting the flow of the game
the lockers and hiding behind gens disrupts the flow of the game
My favorite quotes from you so far
What does any of that have to do with you defending the perk?
You are complaining about me discussing about the perk and why I think it should be a hex.
Right now you are just being toxic.
Why do you feel the perk doesn't need to be a hex?
Ruin was disrupting the flow of the game cause 80% of the killers were using it.
I see that most killers are using BBQ.
If you have problems with other perks then go to another forum to discuss it.
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@Marcavecunc said:
So when you do it, it's a discussion, but when others do it, it's bitching? Got it!
Sarcasm aside, practice makes perfect, and playing against better people than you also helps get better, I know I enjoy playing against good survivors because it keeps me on my toes and helps me practice how to counter them, rather than killing potatoes.
I never said to the other people posting just him.
If you are going to cuss or swear its not a discussion.
Peoples points in this forum are valid but the fact someone is cussing or swearing at someone just means they have alot of feelings towards something and childish so they result to cussing or trolling.
I just think that the perk needs to be a hex, I never said anything about it being nerfed to the ground or anything.
It does raise the skill gap knowing all the perks and doing what should be done to counter such said perk.
I think that survivors get hooked alot and most people don't have enough time to get to a locker or hide behind a gen.
It would encourage lower level ranks to play more if it was a hex instead of it not being one.
The blood points part of the perk is smart yes but also with it being a aura reading perk is a bit op, getting extra points and seeing survivors and it not really having a hard counter besides the lockers and hiding behind gens disrupts the flow of the game.
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@Marcavecunc said:
What emptyCups said.. play with other people. The people I play most regularly with are people I met while playing the game (killing them, ironically) and honestly it's way more fun than on your own.
Join the Dead by Daylight discord and check out the looking for group channel if you don't know anyone or don't want to start making friends with people at the end of the game.
You need to read all the posts before you talk, I said I play with a friend.
ALSO how does me playing with other people change the fact about BBQ needing to be a hex?
You think its fine the way it is but it is not.
Lower level people suffer from it and higher level people need it.
AKA crutch perk.
You needing a perk to win is a crutch perk, and the fact that it is a S tier perk and that 80% of killers use it still doesn't back up what you are saying.
Just because YOU think something is not op doesn't mean it is not.
Most of the people that come on this forum are actively playing it and like the game, and want whats best for the game.
The killer has many ways to find a survivor but telling me that I need to go into a locker or hide behind a gen ever hook is kinda disrupting the flow of the game.
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@emptyCups said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1032912#Comment_1032912
Make freinds. Most of your comments are about other survivors perks or your team not helping.
You joined the forums to ######### ? You got the time to practice matches in SWF
You move between complaining about other people or how youtube doesn't help you. You have 3rd person view to help you find surroundings. You have a heartbeat and a red stain you know where the killer is at all times you have 2 heathstates and 3 hooks and adrenaline every time you get hit to gain some distance. What more second chances do you need ?
1.5 gens is all you need each to live
Killer is weak af
It's called a discussion, not bitching or complaining.
If I was bitching it would be right now how you are sitting here bitching about how you have distaste for me talking about a perk I think needs to be a HEX.
If you are going to complain about me discussing this subject then maybe you should leave cause of your toxicity.
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Not everyone is high tier :)
I'm sick of seeing every killer using it as a crutch perk.
You only use it cause you are bad at the game and need aura reading abilities cause you can't find people.
I do exactly as you all say to hide in lockers and to hide behind gens but that doesn't stop bad survivors getting caught non-stop and exposing the other survivors, also the rage quitters getting caught one time.
This game has alot of problems with it and BBQ and chili is one of them, if you are defending the perk its because you have no common sense that after a generator is done that the survivor or survivors are near it.
There is alot of ways to cause pressure and aura reading perks are just used for people that aren't good at the game.
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@Jimbobads said:
Sorry I haven't read all of the previous essays but i'm sure you all have points of your own.
This title is quite frankly a joke. From my experience Hex totems are cleansed fairly early game and the spawn locations are a joke, plus survs can use detectives hunch and maps to find them easily.
Now lets actually talk about BBQ and chilli.
1) Can locate surv's from a long distance. (Down side is they have to be far away and not in a locker)
2) It takes time for a killer to actually get to that distance they previously saw the surv with BBQ and chilli so they easily could of moved location.
I actually do not see how this is a broken perk in anyway shape or form.
If you're constantly being found then it has nothing to do with BBQ, you're just not a stealthy surv.
Yet again another high tier person telling common people to get good.
Most of the time I get caught is because other survivors freak out and don't know the game.
Survivors that run towards people doing gens, survivors that run towards people healing, Survivors that don't know hiding in a locker or hiding behind a gen would help them cause they are common players instead of try hard super competitive players.
I could completely see this perk being okay in ranked for high level survivors and killers but for most of people that player like I said before 20 to rank 7 play the game for fun and not competitive reasons but this game puts player level and ranking in the same game.
Other games seprate ranked games with common normal games, which is another flaw with this game.
This game could have ALOT more people playing if they took the time to understand why people stop playing (which those people aren't going to make a forum account to complain or discuss these problems.)
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@Marcavecunc said:
Honestly, if you can only do 1 generator, sorry to tell you this but, the problem isn't barbecue..
You might need to stop taking the game too seriously if you're about to have a heart attack over it..
you keep assuming things about myself.
I play with 1 friend and me and him usually 95% of the time are the last two survivors cause the other survivors keep getting caught and don't know the game.
The only time I have a problem with the game is when the killer has BBQ and Chili, nothing else.
Telling me to stop playing the game or get good isn't going to help anyone.
I look up looping videos and other tips and tricks about the game I know how to counter the perk but OTHER survivors don't.
Having to change the way the game is when someone is hooked which should happen about 12 times in a match meaning the killer has 12 chances to find someone using this perk, knowing the person direction he is going, what he is doing (healing or doing a gen or cleansing a totem)
It's sad that you all need a perk that finds people so easily but you tell me to get good at the game or even stop playing, that right there is just straight toxicity.
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I have played 10 games today and literally 8 of the 10 killers had BBQ and chili.
We could only do about 0 to 1 generators because the killer would find someone and hook them and I would either RUN TOWARDS THE HOOKED PERSON AND GET CAUGHT BECAUSE HE CAMPED THE HOOK or HE WOULD RUN DIRECTLY TO THE PERSON THAT WASN'T FAST ENOUGH TO GET INTO A LOCKER OR HIDE BEHIND A GENERATOR.
I get about 2k to maybe 10k bloodpoints (if Im lucky) per game when the killer gets about 30k plus (BBQ and CHILI stacks) so how is the fair?
You need to hook survivors to win and get points anyway so why do you need a 24/7 aura reading ability?
Please answer me besides telling me to get better at the game when you killers need to clearly need to get better instead of having aura reading abilities non-stop.
If they limit the perk it would give common players an edge at getting better but killers have zero skill cause they need to know where survivors are at 24/7 when it shouldn't be that way because you have Scratch marks, injured whining, crows, and MANY MANY more things to help you find survivors.
You all complain about TOP TIER RANK PEOPLE GEN RUSHING but most of the time you hardly see high tier gen rushers cause most of the people that play this game are rank 20 through rank 7.
I hardly ever see rank 1 people and if I do, its because they are abusing top tier perks cause they have ZERO SKILL.
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@Marcavecunc said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1032553#Comment_1032553
Imagine when they release new objectives and they actually have to do more than generators! Oh the agony!
And what's with making every good perk a Hex?
What about making survivor totems that the killer destroys to turn off their exhaustion perks or their decisive strike or ######### like that? I mean, if it's good for one side, why not make it work both ways, right?
Why does everyone bring up other perks when the topic is about BBQ and chili?
If you have problems with other perks maybe you should bring up a forum post about it instead of complaining to me about it.
I think BBQ and Chili is op cause it has no limits and has extra bloodpoints, the other aura reading perks don't really do that.
You tell me to go into a locker or walk the other way or do this and that but the thing is I DO, DO THAT.
If I hide in a locker the killer will still come in that direction cause its near a generator.
If I run towards the downed survivor the killer will know that either (A) the survivor is close by (B) they are in a locker. Most of the time people don't go into lockers quick enough consider how hooks too close to each other.
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@thehotdogman93 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1032540#Comment_1032540
If you have the audacity to complain about not wanting to be the best in the game, then don't complain about perks that you don't want to learn how to counter. I think you should stop playing DBD or any other competitive multiplayer game for that matter if you don't care to improve your skills instead of asking for the game to be easier for you.
I do have skill but I'm not perfect at the game.
You are super toxic telling me to stop playing this game. (you are the reason why people are leaving this game)
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@thehotdogman93 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1032521#Comment_1032521
Why did so many killers have to use ruin? For what did they need it so bad and why have people been complaining that playing survivor is too easy now that gens get done so quick. That "80% of the players were using ruin" argument has been overused by now, and I could repeat what's been said about 10,000 times now.
You need to learn the difference between what is a 'decent' perk and what is an 'overpowered' perk. Just because it's very good at helping the killer doesn't mean it needs to be nerfed.
People are accusing you of baiting because you sound so much like an Entitled Survivor.
I am not an entitled survivor.
I play killer all the time and I don't use BBQ or any aura readin abilities cause I'm not bad at the game.
Most of my games I would say 80% as the killer I win cause survivors try to gen rush and I instead of hooking survivors I drop them on the floor and focus the gens putting pressure on the survivors without knowing where they are. Me dropping the survivor will also have one of the other survivors to go help the one on the ground so I know thats 2 survivors no on gens so I go to the gen thats being focused and I ALWAYS find a survivor there cause they don't rotate to other gens. So that would be 3 survivors out not doing gens cause of one simple thing I did.
I do agree that gens are too fast but I also think that ALL the aura reading abilities take zero skill.
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@thehotdogman93 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1029688#Comment_1029688
I'm sorry but the fact that you say that this game is supposed to be a "hide and go seek" kind of game kinda shows how much inexperience you have at playing as a survivor. No it's not just about being able to hide from the killer, a lot of it has to do with chases. I'll even quote Bricky (A DBD Youtuber) on this one. Even though his case files are a bit old, what he says about how killers are ranked still applies.
The main factor that determines whether killer is 'high' or 'low' tier is this simple question:
"Does the killer's ability help in the case?"
If 'not', then the killer is low tier
If the answer is 'yes', then it is high tier
Otherwise, if it's 'maybe' or 'sort of', then it is mid tier killer.
What does this have to do with nerfing BQ&C? It means that you should stop focusing on trying to hide from the killer so much and make up for it by improving your chase game. Because the last thing DBD needs is another nerf for the killers side.
Not everyone in this game has TIME to be the best in the game.
Just because a twitch streamer and maybe yourself plays to be the best MOST people that aren't in this forum don't have time to even learn to loop or find ways to spin in circles around the killer.
There is no such thing as sneaking around in this game anymore cause of these aura reading perks.
I myself watch these videos about looping and I loop the killer but even if I do so it doesn't stop the abilities of other survivors that play for FUN and not to be the best.
Killers win 70% of the time which in my opinion is not fair or even.
If this game is skill based then shouldn't things be balanced and even and the skill be shown not be aura reading abilities showing where the survivors are at, at all times?
Cause last time I checked the survivors were nerfed 4+ times in a row before the ruin nerf.
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Why is everyone saying this is a bait or troll post?
I legit would like to know why EVERYONE uses the perk?
because its overpowered and you are all just protecting it.
Telling me to get good and all that crap is just being toxic, and you are all the reason why people aren't playing this game enough.
You rely on aura reading abilities because the scratch marks and whining when injured and the gen silhouettes and obvious noises aren't enough to help you find people?
Killers say to get skill but all I see is a bunch of killers that have no skill and rely on aura reading abilities to find survivors cause you aren't good at the game.
Me asking for it to be a hex would not change anything about the perk but you would have to protect it like you did with ruin.
Oh wait, wasn't ruin nerfed too? cause 80% of the killers were using it? (that's crazy)
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I have proof that killers use it cause they have no skill.
https://dennisreep.nl/dbd/perks/killer/
on this list it is number 1 S tier why? cause of the BLOODPOINTS? don't be foolish you use it cause most killers suck at finding survivors, when there is scratch marks, blood pools and many other things to find them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/b8y5dn/killer_perk_tier_list/
on this tier list it TOP TIER AGAIN! why? because of those good blood points you get? I highly doubt that.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/57142/killer-perks-tier-list
Here is another tier list and WHAT DO YOU KNOW? BBQ AND CHILI again at the top! why? because of those blood points? I don't think so.
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@NullEXE said:
This is an obvious troll thread.
I am not trolling I legit don't like BBQ and Chili.
I don't think the other perks on killer are that bad and are balanced.
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I am dead serious about this being a hex.
Nurse's calling you have to hide and be far away to heal to counter it.
Bitter murmur requires you to finish a generator for the killer to see you.
Making BBQ and chili a hex or a scream silhouette would make the perk more fair.
Having finished hooking a survivor you can easily just walk to where you saw the survivor (How does that require skill?)
It's sad that killers need so many aura reading abilities to find survivors when you can easily just listen for whining from them or scratch marks from them running.
It literally takes no skill to be a killer.
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If I could fix this game I would have the Aura reading abilities limited heavily.
This game is supposed to be a Hide and Go Seek kinda game but the Aura reading abilities kill the game.
Right now Killers are so OP is sad.
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@[Deleted User] said:
BBQ already has seven counters to it. It doesn't need an eighth counter.
Tell you what, you make BBQ & Chilli a hex, so I'll run an actual good tracking perk like Nurses Calling which doesn't have seven counters to it. Meanwhile, we can make DS, Adrenaline, BT, Unbreakable and DH hexes that the killer can cleanse since almost every single survivor runs at least one of these perks.
They should limit how many times you can use DS but for Adrenaline and BT and Unbreakable and DH I think they are fine the way they are.
The lack of skill coming from killers now a days is sad, Why do you need to have aura reading perks to find survivors? There is Gens highlighted around the map.
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Some maps don't have lockers close enough.
The lack of skill coming from killers now a days is disgusting.
All I see now that ruin is gone pretty much is BBQ and chill with Pop Goes the weasel and Nurses calling and Discordance.
Why do killers need so many aura reading abilities? There is no skill playing a killer.