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@ChiSoxFan11 said:
I posted this for someone else before, so I'll cut and paste it here:
As someone who plays The Pig a LOT, a few thoughts -- other Pig players experience with her will obviously vary, but there's always more than one way to play successfully.
-- You're gifted with an innate in-game slowdown in the form of your traps, so use them. Some Pig players like to save them, but I start busting them out immediately. Nothing worse than having the last gen pop, and you still have a trap left that's been rendered useless. Survivors will, for the most part, start searching boxes immediately, even if their trap isn't active, so that's a survivor that's NOT working on a generator. That slowdown is invaluable in a game where gens can go by so quickly.
-- That said, additional slowdown perks for gen regression are useful, if almost necessary. Corrupt paired with Pop can work, though Pop can be unreliable at times. Even though she's not a high mobility killer, I will run Ruin paired with Undying -- again, once a survivor has a trap on, particularly an active one, they won't be looking for your totem. I tend to run Surveillance with her as well, and I get a TON of use out of it with Ruin (as long as the totems stay up). I run BBQ with her mainly to reduce the BP grind, but Enduring is a 4th good perk (since you'll be eating through pallets, or Save The Best For Last (since you can save stacks by using your Ambush Attack on the Obsession). Sloppy Butcher isn't bad either, as survivors who take longer healing won't be searching boxes or working on gens. Any additional slowdown you can get is good for you.
-- Stealth is not her strength, but it still can be useful. Her terror radius doesn't go away immediately like Ghostface, and after you uncrouch, there's a brief period that it takes to come back. She moves painfully slow while crouched, so while it's okay to use it to move around, you have to be selective -- you don't want to be crossing the entire map while crouched. I get a lot of cheeky hits using her crouch to stealth back to a generator that Surveillance tells me someone has jumped back on. You don't have to use her Ambush attack in those instances -- using her stealth simply to get close to a survivor and in position to land a hit is often enough. There are many matches where I barely use her stealth at all and are still successful with her.
-- Her ambush attack is underrated at loops that aren't large ones. If you can break line of sight -- and even better if you can get into the pallet -- you can turn it into a no-win for the survivor if they hesitate and don't run immediately away. Here's a great example of how I'll land that type of hit:
You can also FAKE using her Ambush Attack as well, since her roar telegraphs it (something that it would be nice if that would be changed down the line). You can crouch and snort, faking that you're charging the Ambush Attack, then immediately pop back up after a survivor has run from what might have been a safe tile for them.
-- Her best add-ons are the Combat Straps, which are a common that reduce her crouch time, and either the Video Tape (an uncommon that reduces the time it takes to charge the Ambush Attack and the cooldown if you miss) or the Last Will (which gives you a 5th trap). If you're feeling particularly spicy, the Tampered Timer/Crate of Gears is deadly, if for no other reason than only the most experienced survivors will realize you're running it before someone dies (if they notice that you're putting the trap on them slightly quicker than normal). I've had survivors die to the TT simply because they got healed off of hook with an active trap and got pushed off of a box somewhere along the way. Her other add-ons are not really anything to write home about.
-- Speaking of traps, the best way to start a round is to get a down and a trap on a survivor's head before the 1st gen pops. If you can do that, you'll have immediate pressure on. While it might be tempting to chase after a trapped survivor, that's NOT the way to play her. The trap IS the pressure, not you chasing after the person who's trapped. RNG can sometimes be cruel -- it's frustrating to see everyone getting their traps off immediately -- but that's still time they have to do something OTHER than work on a gen, which gives you additional time to get the downs you need to win.
-- The exception to the above rule is when you come across someone on a Jigsaw box, it's always worth it to harass them off of it, even if you don't commit to chasing them. They lose all progress on the box, and if it chases them all the way to another box somewhere else, even better. If, while chasing someone, you run across someone searching a box who's injured, downing them and continuing your chase can provide a ton of pressure. Don't camp boxes -- not only is it a waste of time for you, but it's bad form to do so, and you'll just end up watching all the gens get done while you're doing so.
-- Finally, players are going to want to meme with you when you play The Pig. I honor every Boop of the Snoot by letting that person live -- I've even let whole teams farm who are willing to Boop out the gate -- but that's not a requirement. If you don't want to meme with your survivors, a quick attack will let them know you mean business, lol.
I'm not an "expert" by any measure, but I have played hundreds of rounds as her, and I've made it to Rank 1 playing the majority of matches as her. She can compete, even against very good survivors, and she's a lot of fun to play. My YT channel (the video clip above is on it -- the channel is here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCODC_RYe0z8yDnIFlmW-TmA) has well over 100 matches on it if you'd like to see how many of my Pig matches go (just don't look at my earliest ones -- I've only been playing a year, and I still have a LOT to improve on, lol) . If you want to see somewhat occasionally competent Pig play, you'll have plenty to see there.
Other people have recommended him, and I concur: the best Pig player I know of is a player by the name of Scorpionz -- he has a whole Pig guide on his channel (here -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UOlX6azR3A&ab_channel=Scorpionz). While I don't follow everything he says to do, I think there's more than one way to play the Pig successfully, and I have learned a lot watching him (particularly about using the Ambush Attack successfully). If you want to play the Pig, it's a must to checki him out, as he's continually at Rank 1 playing her and playing her well.
Hope some of that helps -- and good luck playing The Pig! 🙂 (Blight, I have no help for, as I almost never play him 😔).
Thank you sir! These thoughts are very detailed, thank you so much. I just got my second 4k, using your technique took down 2 of them, feels really good :) And those survivors I've met today were all friendly and polite as well. Some even gave me suggestions in afterwards chats.
That's what video game was meant to be, making every player happy.
I'll be sure to check the youtube and twitch channel. Your advice is very welcome and helpful.
Hope you have a nice new week too😊
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@[Deleted User] said:
Dont let survivors frustrate you.
Thank you friend. I really hope one day I can no longer be frustrated by this game.
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@FFirebrandd said:
Hello.
So firstly, Pig can be a very fun, and very powerful Killer. However I wouldn't necessarily say she's the most new player friendly of the Killers out there. She's not as unfriendly as Nurse, Blight, Billy, or Huntress, but there are easier Killers. If you are absolutely certain that you want to continue learning Pig, here's a very in depth Pig guide made by one of the best, if not the best, Pig mains in the game. It helped me immensely and It'll probably help you too.
So Secondly, why do I recommend new players start with a different Killer? Well Pig's most powerful attribute is her Reverse Bear Traps. They can give her an immense amount of stall, to the point of bringing gens to a screeching halt... but you need to get downs to get them in play. The problem is that if you end up against a batch of Survivors you have trouble downing, you can get to the last gen popping with several of your RBT's still in your inventory at which point they are useless. The other problem with Pig is that her stealth doesn't really get super good until you get Monitor and Abuse on her. That's a Doctor teachable and there's no telling when it'll be back in the Shrine, so getting it will probably take you a while.
The Killer who I would actually recommend starting with is Legion. Much like Pig, they're power can also give you some very very much needed stall to give you more time in the game to get used to playing as Killer. The difference is that Feral Frenzy gives you that stall much much easier than RBT's do. Frenzy doubles the speed difference between you and Survivors and allows you to fast vault Windows and Pallets. Because of that and the Deep Wound that it inflicts, you are almost always going to be able to get at least some value out of your power. Because of that, I don't think I've ever had a Legion game where I felt completely powerless. Even when the matchmaker threw me against a mix of reds and purples when I was still in green ranks. Add in that Legion loves Thanatophobia, the one decent anti gen perk in the set of Perks that Killers can get with just bloodpoints, and can make solid use out of Billy's Endurance and Tinkerer... seriously... get the Teachables from Nurse and Billy alone, throw in Discordance or Whispers and Legion has a solid build with only the Shards for Legion required.
Thank you friend! I really appreciate you detailed advice. That's very helpful for new players, thank you.
I want to play Pig and Blight because as a survivor I didn't know how to deal with them....So why not join them I think. Love the RBTs and stealth-style mechanics. It's just so hard when it comes to chasing loopers and dealing with flashlights... I've watched the recordings of Scorpionz, he's really really good! But it would take me more time to learn how to mindgame good survivors. I'll go back to lvlup the Doc and Nurse, hopefully get the teachable perks asap.
I never played the Legion before, sounds very interesting. I hate pallets and pallets with flashlights pointing at me....I've seen Tru3ta1ent played Legion a few times...But again every killer seems quite OP in his hands....
Also, I've seen some recommended BBQ, is that a perk with top-level priority? My current perks are NOED and three from the Pig.... Gonna take me quite some time to get it....
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@Lambch0p said:
Scorpionz, who is easily one of the best, if not the best pig player has a great guide for how to play the pig on YouTube. Biggest thing about playing Pig is getting all your bear traps out as soon as possible to get survivors off of gens and learning how to best use her stealth (monitor and abuse + whisperers greatly helps with the latter). That guide will help you with pig specifically, but learning how to play killer just takes time. Scott Jund has a great video on how to run tiles that I suggest to every new killer player that will help with killer basics.
Thank you for the suggestion. I've watched the streaming recording of Scorpionz for the entire afternoon. Learned quite a lot. Although trying to mindgame the survivors would take more time to learn.... And I didn't have the perks he used in game... Guess I'll have to spend more time and BPs...