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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1996061#Comment_1996061
There are children in the lore of the game and there actually are some disabled people as well (also playable).
also the devs want to be inclusive and they think they have unintentionally excluded LGBTQ+.
no one is asking them to create a token LGBTQ+ character (almost no one), but to just treat it the same
So, if in some character arc is mentioned that he or she knew a lesbian woman or a gay man, you would be satisfied with your demand?
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1995211#Comment_1995211
Is this really a necessary paltform for a political statement
The existence of LGBTQ+ people in real life isn't a political statement. We don't wake up and choose to be gay, we're born this way. Us existing isn't politics.
At which point a gay man isn't treated equal to a hetero man?
Now you could be saying 2 things here so I'll cover both bases.
1) With represention they're not being treated equally
As we already have confirmed heterosexual relationships in the game, they would be treated equally instead of being excluded.
2) When are people not treated equally?
In which case
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/U2PU79ZUNLCZ/image.png
Here's a map of the world where being LGBTQ+ is illegal. This isn't taking into consideration countries like Russia where they're heavily discriminated against.
Currently the lore of the game doesn't care about sexuality. Why should it be focused when it never was a topic?
Allow me to point you in the direction of Nurse, Felix, David, Frank, and Julie.
Right now every character can be attracted to every gender for the player, because it's not defined the other way. Is this isn't equal enough?
See above.
Actually we are not born this way, but we develope this way. We are born asexual and usually with puberty we develope these feelings.
To focus people with that kind of sexuality in Dead by Daylight makes it to a political statement, because at this point nobody cared about their sexuality and you want to highlight that. Do normal people walk around and tell everybody they meet that they are gay just to get sure that everyone knows gay people exist? Nobodys cares and nobody needs this kind of representation.
Only the fact, that hetero sexuality is mentioned in the lore doesn't mean homosexuality doesn't exist or is excluded.
If you want to push a kind of rate for characters that have a non hetero alignment, you would have to rate every thing of the world to represent the world you live in properly. Do you see any children in the game? Does the game denies that childs exists with that? No. Do you see any disabled people in the game? Do the game denies that these kind of people exist? No.
I would prefer it, the creators concentrate to make interesting characters and if they are gay, I am fine with it. Put creating a character for the only purpose to have a gay character in it, is stupid.
And of course there are a lot of countries, that treat homosexuality as a crime or something similar, but Dead by Daylight is not responsible for that and having a gay character appearing in the game wouldn't change anything for people in these countries. In modern countries a gay man can marry another man, even adopt a child, have the same job and visit any place he want. And the people who play Dead by Daylight and who are create Dead by Daylight are living in these countries. Nobody would even think, that Dead by Daylight would exclude peope of any color, religion, gender or sexual preference, except those people who want to force their own agenda into everything.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1994972#Comment_1994972
Equal treatment of LGBTQ+ compared to heterosexuality is the goal.
and the devs have already stated they are for inclusion.
the discussion here is directed for those against inclusion as the title said. But no one has brought up a valid reason why LGBTQ+ should be excluded when there are already multiple confirmed heterosexual relationships present..
At which point a gay man isn't treated equal to a hetero man? And what has that do to with the game? Is this really a necessary plattform for a political statement? Currently the lore of the game doesn't care about sexuality. Why should it be focussed when it never was a topic? Right now every character can be attracted to every gender for the player, because it's not defined the other way. Is this isn't equal enough?
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I don't understand what's the point of this discussion. So people are offended because some character hasn't a background story that reveals that he or she is gay? What's the point? Does it make Yui more sympatric if she would be a lesbian? Are you more comfortable to play the Trapper if you would know he is gay? Why do you need to know the sexual preference of a character of the game to play it?
What's the goal of this demand?
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I agree! There should be an extended version of this. Would even pay some money if this would be offered as a dlc :)
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I think it's better now, at least with me. Results were okay. Still, I hope they extend the rift season, because this game was unplayable for about two weeks.
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I was just wondering when the dev's think I would be able to play the game again with none of these emblem issues? I mean ... the current rift-season won't stop, because of that, isn't it? Any ideas?
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Yes, the last fix didn't solve that issue. How is that even possible to destroy the pip ranking system, that totally worked fine and there was no need to change anything on it?
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I think they also should expand the time to complete the rift season because of this. I mean, I got zero points in Unbroken, too. No matter how long I survived. The more matches I would play to complete the rift, the more -1 pip I get like this.
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In most cases I can hear a terror radius, but it so quiet comapred to earlier versions. I play with headset. The rest of the game has an accurate sound, but not the killers. I don't know why this happens to me.
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Common guys, at least with the second example: He was 100 % visible behind me and nothing happened to reveal him, while he was chasing me. He just need to stop for a second to stalk me and he was able to do it, although I had clear view on him.
I can accept that it isn't possible to spot him, if something hides parts of his body, but I really have the feeling the ghost face spotting mechanic doesn't work accurate. And I think people know that and abusing it. I don't want him weak, I want a fair game. If I spot him behind me uncovered (in a chase), it doesn't feel right, that he can stalk me (that quick) nevertheless.
Still, thanks for your answers.
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Well, I think the best way to stop face camping or camping is to stop the timer for the survivor on the hook. The closer the killer would be, the slower the timer would went on. So camping would be totally useless in this case, because it wouldn't kill survivors.
The main problem with camping is, that a survivor needs to unhook someone, if you don't want to get a minus pip. If you have no points in this category at the end of the game, you could even make 5 gens and still would lose a pip in the higher ranks. So survivors are always forced to help other survivors on the hook and some killer players abuse these mechanic.