FieldAgentReaper

@katoptris said:
You're using a special attack that cause 2 stacks to be removed from obsession.

thats not how its supposed to work, the obsession has to TAKE DAMAGE OR CHANGE HEALTH STATES i dont know why people have a hard time understanding this. Hitting a m2 that doesnt deal damage removing stacks is a bug and not intentional, and the play with your food part you misunderstood, pinhead loses 2 stacks of play with your food when running engi fang its supposed to be only 1 stack so actually it is a bug

in Save the best for last and play with your food bugged on pinhead (and other killers) Comment by FieldAgentReaper June 30, 2024

@Devil_hit11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3571215#Comment_3571215
that game exactly shows my point about how bad pinhead's 1vs1 is. first you need have incredible aim accuracy to use chains, like I am not joking but it is harder to use his chains accurately vs good survivors than it is to land like blight rushes and nurse blinks. you can see how many times he misses chains in that match. disregarding mechanical difficult of using this ability, he is not getting rewarded for his chains. Just to give an example, 21:12 he is near Lisa at around 10 meters away, He is casting his chains, he lands chains but gets no hit. To be fair, he does not move around the pallet after hitting Lisa but even if he did, he might not make it just because chains are likely to break before pinhead makes any distance.
Another example is 22:13 where he lands a chain around crane loop but survivor still gets to the pallet. He still get hits m1 hits on nancy who is body blocking but actual chase with power results in no value. You see how pinhead's anti-loop is ineffective? He is landing precise skill-shot but it is not mattering in outcome of the 1vs1.
The survivor have some of worst loop rng. they have 4 four walls, a long-wall pallet and that new double window loop. the reason why pinhead is doing so well is because survivor's do not have typical stronger loop setups in the map. All hits he is getting is not because of 1vs1 chain anti-loop. it is all m1 gameplay. Pinhead chains are suppose to be anti-loop but pinhead player knows from experience how ineffective the anti-loop is which is why he is breaking pallets. there is no point in trying to use his chains around loops.
Your game showcases everything I talked about with pinhead in regards to 1vs1. as you correctly point out, hoarder no longer works with the box so that outcome is likely to be way worse as less chain-hunt are likely to activate.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3571198#Comment_3571198
Considering the 1vs1 power barely works currently, I don't even know what power-level the chains are considering current version of them is terrible. At best, his power is like pink bottle clown, so i am pretty sure his power working correctly will not suddenly make his 1vs1 strong given that it has big counter-play in the player missing his chains as shown in the video.

That is the thing, you are thinking in terms of "this single chain is not giving me immediate value" the thing I have recognized from playing pinhead is its not always about the value from a single chain, that comes from close-range engagement, sometimes it's about hitting a first chain to slow them down and set you up for another one that will be the reason you get the down. Everyone keeps thinking in that ideology, if pinhead could get max value every time from hitting a chain I firmly believe he would actually be unfair. He isn't death slinger and you may not think that but what you want him to be is death slinger, thats not his role even though I also really love slinger. Sometimes you wont always get good value but thats ok because that makes him fun to play against, if pinhead could just get insane value no matter what if you hit a m2 then the fun factor on survivor side goes down which I also care about as I love playing against pinheads that try to use their m2, good positioning and the pinhead misplacing his gateway will reward the survivor, it makes pinhead more fun that way though. And im not saying it cant be frustrating to have even a good chain break instantly, but at the end of the day thats ok, if we start trying to make him easier to play by changing this mechanic we are potentially damaging his skill factor for the sake of hand holding which I am very much against and making him less fun to play against as a survivor, and we really dont need that. I get it if you disagree with me but as the one who played in that game, yes I missed chains but thats just part of the game thats on me, as the player, for messing up, not because he is weak or as everyone is saying "inconsistent" I mean take a look at the hit on the feng at the end of the video when I hit a really good compensation chain through shack right before the last gen popped, that was rewarding as hell as it allowed me to kill her then go and kill ada.

in Pinhead seems like the weakest killer in DBD Comment by FieldAgentReaper October 28, 2023

@GroßusSchmiedus said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3570951#Comment_3570951
I'm usually the last one to pull content creators especially when they dont do it themselves here but i think this one does well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiOlzIn7HEQ
Keep in mind while this wasn't a 100% comp setting this team was still better than easily 90% of SWFs out there. Pinhead is certainly a very tricky Killer to master because not only are his chains very tricky but you also need a lot of game sense, now more than ever since Hoarder has been nerfed, but it wasn't really ever completely necessary.
This match also shows the point i have been trying to make when i said Pinhead is a relatively healthy Killer because he almost never benefits from camping/tunneling compared to other Killers, its almost always better to go for the Box and switch targets, even in a potentially competitive setting where the meta for a long time has been tunneling pretty much.
He is not a mere noob/pub stomper, while he is surely stronger against them that applies to literally every Killer because bad uncoordinated survivors are easier to go against with every Killer.
I'm just glad that the Pinhead glitches have been fixed so i can finally play him again, i did not play him for far to long.

oh hey that's me :D and yea this video is a perfect example of what I'm talking about, team misery is not a bad comp team in fact they are normally quite high on comp setting leaderboards when playing in tourneys, and the fact I performed as well against them without corrupt and without impaling wire and original pain just goes to show how good pinhead is.

in Pinhead seems like the weakest killer in DBD Comment by FieldAgentReaper October 28, 2023

@GroßusSchmiedus said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3570681#Comment_3570681
That is great to hear, i did not touch him for a while because of the bugs, especially when the locker bug became widespread.
BTW what do you think of the hate Pinhead gets? I would like to hear your perspective. I personally feel like he is unappreciated and is hated way to much because of bad players. I mean Pinhead is currently only one of a few Killers that reward aggressive gameplay that much, even in situations when it'd be advised for most Killers to camp/tunnel you can just go for the box and get a potentially higher reward out of it which is very cool and needs to be implemented more in Killer design in general.
It doesn't help that people still see him as a pub stomper no matter how good he is played in comp with box control.

I think he is overhated, I love pinhead even in solo q, I just hate that many of them resort to tunneling and proxy camping when they cant hit the possessed chain and turn a fun killer into a boring one. Fun pinheads use their m2 which is a lot easier to dodge then people think, however a good pinhead is something ive also come to respect as a good pinhead is very hard to beat because they can make chases very short with good placed m2s. And yes his ability to play aggressively against the box with box logic makes him IMO a top A tier killer as if you understand that part of his power tied with knowing how to m2 you will destroy even the best of teams in pubs especially if you run a build to back it up and part of the reason I got to 244 wins in a row with pinhead. And he is a pub stomper, but its because he isnt played often and so many people dont understand the tricks and things you can do to help again him and just throw that "hes a solo q stomper" quote out every time instead of learning. I employ my own tactics that I hate when playing against pinheads and it works extremely well until they start proxy camping and focusing someone out of the game and people are not sitting on gens hard enough as its happening which can be frustrating but thats not a pinhead thing that a dbd game in general thing.