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  • @jesterkind said:

    So, I can't play right now (RIP to my PC :( ) but I have been around for previous instances of new gen speed builds, so I think it's worth asking a question as a quick sanity check:

    Is Fast Track actually the problematic part of those builds?

    The last one of these that I was around for was the Stranger Things Teamwork perks, and categorically they weren't the problematic part of those builds. Those perks, together, give one person the equivalent of Prove Thyself; the crazy co-op gen speed builds people were showing off were already possible and largely due to either toolboxes, or just the fact that co-op gen speeds can be kinda fast in a vacuum as long as you don't factor in travel time, opportunity cost, or the risk factor of the killer regressing more of the team's efforts at once with single perk procs.

    I'm engaging in good faith here, I genuinely cannot test if Fast Track is the problem here. I just want that concept involved in the discussion because it seems important.

    Though, speaking to Fast Track specifically, I do think people often overlook that you the killer are also gaining objective progress while Fast Track is in play. Hypothetically, if one person shaved off half a gen's progress but in exchange you have the entire rest of the team on death hook, it kinda doesn't matter much at that point, right?

    My problem comes from the fact that there is recorded evidence of builds using BNP, Fast Track and specialist to remove 50% required charges from a gen, and in spooknjukes own words, "We played for 2 hours and didn't lose once that entire time" and even turned MULTIPLE rounds from a loss into a win by doing that build. I've experienced this myself multiple times against swfs all running fast track and other perm charge perks, all it takes is 3 hook stages to get all 9 charges on Fast Track which just kind of punches you in the groin especially early game. I literally ONLY want the perk to give less charges on hooks and I would be more than fine with it that way.