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  • @Mediva said:
    Lets just be honest about one thing: No one deranks because of a better mentality. You derank, cause you cant outplay the killer anymore and you want easier games.
    So the killer did learn, but you refuse to learn too and adept a different playstyle.
    Its always other survivors fault, they are idiots. But if you are that good, then why cant you outplay the killer 1 vs 1?

    There is just never an excuse for deranking. If you got there by playing like an idiot and now the game is to hard, thats your problem. Dont make it the same problem for your fellow teammates, who actually want to enjoy a game.

    ??? I've spent a ton of time at rank 1. Started playing at release, and I use to never derank and sat at rank 1 for a very long time every month. I stopped doing that when I kept facing the same couple killers repeatedly over the course of the night, and they would always play billy. I started deranking at the start of this year. There truly isn't a gap in skill from red to green ranks. There are good and bad players at rank 1, and good and bad players at rank 10. I guess that's difficult for people to believe.

  • @SovererignKing said:
    @Jendenise

    Perhaps. Though I am on console myself. PS4 player. Usually a Nurse Main, though I’ve been relaxing as of late and playing Spirit and Trapper.

    I have followed DBD though since beta and watched thousands upon thousands of hours, not to mention once it dropped on console, played thousands of hours. Sitting at 90%+ of the achievements already.

    Not all of us console players are woefully ignorant of how things are. Nurse could very well use a nerf on PC, but us on console can’t handle her getting any weaker, just for example. I know full well there are limitations of console, that console players demand unnecessary buffs/nerfs that would absolutely trash PC play, because they are unable to differentiate what’s an actual balance concern, and what’s just a problem because they are playing on inferior hardware with inferior controls. 

    I will be buying myself a PC here within the comming few months though to gain a better perspective on PC play. Many console players need to realize it’s not the game that is at fault, it’s the hardware limitations as well as a few faults with actual balance. 

    I would be so bold as to say I have pushed console play to the limit. I know PC is a whole other ball game, but some issues are universal across platforms. It will be interesting to see how I fare with better FPS, better control with M&KB. I’m also interested in how I will fair against Survivors who dwarf my playtime hours. 

    As a console player party chat is standard even with randoms, so SWF will be very little different than my usual matches of Survivor coordination.

    I look forward to the challenge presented to me on PC, both as Killer and Survivor. 

    May I ask how many hours you have in the game? I would actually love to watch a competent player play on ps4. Am very curious as to what gameplay is like there these days. Anyway, thanks for being respectful, not many people are.

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @ScottJund said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @Jendenise said:
    You obviously haven't read my posts. I didn't insult you, so why are you so heated? I explained really clearly as to why I do what I do. It isn't for easy games. There are easy games at rank 1. If you are a better survivor than me, that's fine, but it isn't relevant really. What counters a good nurse? LOS and knowing when to double back...iron will and whatnot, but certainly not burning her. Can you do that every time? To ONLY bad nurses, and I'm sure nurse mains here will back me up on that, at least. Anyway, I'm happy for you and your confidence in survivor :)

    Yet you derank and play against lowrank killers with your SWF, even using DS flashlights and all that stuff.
    If that isnt easy mode, then I dont know what to say

    i like the part where you didnt actually address anything she said

    I watched her stream.
    Deranking and then reking low rank killers while calling them "baby killers" and bullying them with DS/flashlight and then complaining about "noob killers camping" etc. I mean, what should I say about that? I think this fact speaks for itself

    When's the last time you watched my stream? 2016? lmao. I don't think I've said noob unironically in a long time. If I call someone out for camping, it's merely stating a fact, not insulting them over it. What is the issue with flashlights? Do you not know how to counter them? Also, with DS, I have used it over the last couple weeks, but before that, I hadn't used DS in a very long time. But, I do think being condescending and ######### towards someone outside of the game is pretty crappy tbh. Someone isn't a bad person because they choose to use a certain build and set of addons or play both sides a certain way? Also...again...I don't think you read my first response in this thread. Do you honestly think there is a huge difference in skill with people at rank 1 and people at rank 10? You act like I'm in the rank 13-20 range, which I refuse to be at.
    I see you talking about me a lot...kind of weird.

  • @SovererignKing said:
    @Jendenise @shasta

    Didn't think I’d have to spell this out, but, alright then...

    First off, Shasta, stop taking this personally. That’s not what this is about. 

    Now then, the reason is very simple : It only takes one good Survivor to change the whole outcome of a match. Shasta, you may very well be that one good Survivor. Jendenise, you should know by now all it takes is one good Survivor to carry a whole team of potato Survivors. Any Survivor can easily play Gen Jockey. All it takes is one good Survivor to carry a team. One good Survivor not even using the meta mind you, to Loop a Killer, do safe hook saves, ect.

    The rest of the team can easily just Gen Jockey, maybe get caught once, do a lucky hook save (or hell, just toss on Borrowed Time for a guaranteed “safe unhook” score event), and escape off the hard work of just ONE Survivor busting his balls. This in place effect “boost” those Survivor’s Rank. They can play “immersion Claudette” all they want. They’ll still pip if they just Gen Jockey while the real Survivor does all the hard work. Now imagine that already actually good Survivor is packing the DS/SB/BT/SC meta? Catching my point here? ONE Survivor can carry a whole team, hard. Where do you think all these “boosted” Survivors come from?

    Question : What do you think happens when there isn’t one of those good Survivors on the team. Where the whole team is a bunch of these “boosted” Survivors?

    Answer : They get slaughtered by a Killer who actually isn’t really that good at all. Which “boost” him up the ranks. Not because he is good, but because he faced a bunch of boosted crap Survivors who didn’t luck out and get that one good Survivor to carry their asses.

    Granted, NOED can also boost a ######### Killer beyond his rank, something I’ve vehemently said is NOED needs deleted. It’s a ######### crutch perk that boost Killers. Same with DS for Survivors, and a host of other Survivor perks need a strong looking at, but nothing major. Just some minor tweaks.

    The big problem with the balance of the game is that ONE good Survivor can carry a team. Hard. I have advocated for Killer buffs and Survivor nerfs. However, not without due deliberation. The maps are now balanced imo. Loops are fine now as is. The developers can not do anything more with Pallet Count or Loops without cold cucking Survivors. Minor perks need tweaking on both sides. Mostly the Survivor meta.

    This is simply because the Survivor meta is based on one thing : Being near on totally self sufficient in a team oriented game. You’re either the number role, or the power role. With the meta perks, a single Survivor can be self sufficient to the point they don’t even need more than one or two team mates. Never mind 3 others. If all four run the meta? What is even the point of having that many on the numbers side if they’re THAT self sufficient and powerful on their own?

    Gen Rush is really the biggest issue plaguing the game. As I said, boosted Survivors can easy make it to high rank just playing Gen Jockey while ONE Survivor does all the hard work. The developers have focused too hard core on giving that ONE Survivor so much of a chance, it’s redundant to have four Survivors in the match.

    You want to see better play from both Killers and Survivors who deserve their Rank? Get rid of NOED. Nerf the damn Survivor meta. Stop the Survivors being able to Rush the gens in 4-5 minutes flat. Stop letting Survivors be so stupidly self sufficient they don’t even NEED much teamwork. 

    Agreed. Though, I don't really have much an issue with noed. I do agree that it rewards killers who play very poorly though. But I also go around breaking totems, even ran small game for a bit until the noise alert annoyed the crap out of me.

    I'm starting to think maybe the other guy might play on console? It's a different game over there...and I know nurse is not great on console.

  • You obviously haven't read my posts. I didn't insult you, so why are you so heated? I explained really clearly as to why I do what I do. It isn't for easy games. There are easy games at rank 1. If you are a better survivor than me, that's fine, but it isn't relevant really. What counters a good nurse? LOS and knowing when to double back...iron will and whatnot, but certainly not burning her. Can you do that every time? To ONLY bad nurses, and I'm sure nurse mains here will back me up on that, at least. Anyway, I'm happy for you and your confidence in survivor :)

  • @shasta said:
    Elegant said:

    There are zero nurse counters. You can't counter her. The only way you win vs Nurse is for the Nurse to play badly. If you play well and the Nurse plays well you lose every single time.That's not balance.

    There are plenty of ways to mind game the nurse and you can even burn her with a flashlight while she’s charging a blink , you just need someone to go into kyf and figure out what works for your play style 

    Okay, this statement alone makes me feel as though you rarely play survivor. That's incredibly difficult to do these days with new blind timing. You can only burn a nurse if she's incredibly bad. It's a waste to even try burning her. Only time we do it is when 2-3 of us blind at the same time. You could say this if insta blinds were still a thing...
    Anyway, a truly skilled nurse against most groups is unstoppable (ie. svekeren, zubatlel, etc). You also fail to mention that many nurses run more than 2 blinks and omegablink as well (ataxic and pinecone) which is incredibly strong. You must LOS a nurse and know when to double back or not, and a good nurse has excellent prediction, so sometimes you're just #########. I don't know your skill level, the way you play nurse, or your survivor experience, but saying that burning her with a flashlight is a counter is a big yikes.

  • @shasta said:
    SovererignKing said:

    @ScottJund It’s not that you rank up “too fast” it’s that Survivors rank up too slowly. They rank up slowly because they get bodied and suck balls at the game since a lot of their broken bullshit got fixed recently. Insta-blinds gone, Pallet Vaccum gone, BT getting nerfed so it’s not a brain dead “hook Rush for a freebie!”, and as of the most recent patch stupidly overpowered brain dead loops at buildings being blocked off. 

    The problem isnt the ranking system, the problem is that spoiled Survivors who were so used to abusing the ######### out of broken game mechanics, perks, and items can’t rank up anymore. Plain and simple : They suck balls now they don’t have as much broken ######### to abuse. Meanwhile Killers who were USED to dealing with the broken ######### are on such an insane skill level it’s like shooting fish in a barrel because the Survivors suck balls so hardcore, and the Killers have honed their skills to the point of insanity. 

    Its why Jendenise and other Survivors are deranking on purpose. They can’t win because they suck at the game. It’s why Killers like you and Tru3 can’t find games at higher rank. There just aren’t any Survivors cause they suck so bad at the game. They are trying to pull the same old bullshit they used to pull back when and get all pissy it doesn’t work anymore.

    Dont blame the rank system, it’s just that Survivors suck balls. 

    I’m at rank one and I don’t have the problems you say, I’ll guarantee if you face me You won’t say I suck balls at this and if survivors suck so bad why do killers need any buffs at all? I’ve saw you advocate for killer buffs but here you are acting like nothing is needed 

    That actually legit confuses me too. I'm at red ranks regularly because I tend to end my streams around that range, and so many killers up there are straight up boosted. Like GOD awful. I find that more people ragequit up there, facecamp and throw games, etc. A lot of the survivors up there are immersed asf and have no clue what they're doing as soon as they're found. Hmm.

  • @shasta said:
    Abyssionknight said:

    If you want to depip you just disconnect at the very end. Right when you're getting death hooked, or right before you'd leave the map. Disconnecting at the start is incredibly toxic and ruins the game for everyone involved, and so I say that deserves a ban. Doing it at the end, especially if you do it in a fun way, doesn't result in you sandbagging your team or making the match too easy for the killer, so there's no reason anyone would report you for it.

    If you know you're going to disconnect at the end of the match, it also means you don't have to take the match as seriously and can have a lot more fun practicing techniques, running unique builds, or even just practicing the fundamentals of the game. I'm not saying play like an idiot and feed yourself to the killer, just that you should have a little compassion and try to make your depip an experience that's useful and fun for you, as well as for everyone else involved.

    Dc in any situation is wrong 

    Not true. I had a game yesterday where someone's game crashed at the start of the match. Left the game at 5 gens and 3 people. One person didn't do anything to progress the game. They didn't try running or anything. So essentially it was a 2v1. I can completely understand people disconnecting in that scenario, especially if the killer just wants to farm too, and won't kill you.

  • I think the answer is pretty simple... I don't dc half my games in a month's time. :| In a perfect world, I'd see more than the same couple people at red ranks, but that only happens during events. I would gladly stay up there if I had a variety of players to go against and to have on my team...but that unfortunately isn't the case, and it's boring to not have that variety. It isn't for "easy" games. I get easy games at rank 1. I found that players in red ranks are often worse than the ones in green ranks. There isn't much difference in skill. Yeah, I agree, all the best of the best should be at rank 1. But that isn't the case and it never has been the case (crab-walking survivors that loop the same window over and over, have no clue how to deal with chases and run away from pallets, killers that fall for every mind game and resort to bloodlusting and wasting a ton of time, or throwing games to tunnel one person, and people that do certain exploits that I won't mention here because I don't want to spread that information). There are God awful people skill-wise at rank 1. Very frequently, I find that I go against deranking killers in the purple ranks too, and I don't blame them for deranking to avoid those long queue times. As for people that say they have no issue, maybe that's just a regional thing, I'm not sure. I'll gladly have a civil talk with anyone here about it, because I can understand how the average person could think "this streamer disconnects frequently to avoid being at the best ranks, what a piece of #########." I could make a new account to avoid disconnecting and stuff but...that wouldn't solve the issue. I would start at rank 20 and have to go against people in the yellow and brown ranks, which I had never dipped down to on my main account, because I do believe those are the ranks that actually matter, and should be the brand new player's haven. I did make an alt account once. Had no perks, ran low rank killers around for like 3 hours. And I felt terrible for that. But then again, I also feel bad at rank 1 when I go against a LF that revs at every pallet and a nurse that doesn't know how to blink in place. I would seriously face the same player 10 times in a row...got very boring for my stream. So I start my nights in green ranks (sometimes purple ranks, roughly rank 8) and usually stop at rank 3-6 every day...so I'm up there anyway, and the quality in killers usually gets worse as the night goes on. I do stream very long hours too (sometimes 14 hours). So I'm not dcing half my games cuz I finish out way more games total. I just wanted to explain my side of it, and hope it answers some questions.

  • My profile is only private sometimes. It's usually public now with hours hidden.

  • I went ahead and clarified some things in another post, if you care to read it.
    Instead of bickering and making a bashing thread, perhaps maybe a civil conversation could happen.
    ALSO, I have streamed this game since 2016, and started playing a couple weeks after release. I've only taken a couple breaks to play different games (For Honor, Breath of the Wild, and F13).
    I have a massive amount of clips, vods, etc from all throughout the last couple years to prove a huge chunk of my playtime. I do play off stream, mostly killer because playing survivor off stream causes burn out and I don't want that to carry over to stream.

    Also, my play time, which prob has ~200 hours of afk time because I have accidentally left this game open overnight a few times, or forgot to close it after stream for a couple hours here or there. Most of my hours are legit play time.

    https://i.imgur.com/xUcO2wa.png

    Have you not considered that I have my profile on private or hide my hours because I get annoyed at being dodged constantly? You have to admit that many dodge when they see a ton of hours?

    Anyway, I don't want to see killers nerfed to the ground, or whatever you might want to think. The post is above on that twitter link. Feel free to let me know your thoughts.