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@AngyKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2775345#Comment_2775345
Oh! You mean 'Kobe'! After Kobe Bryant of the LA Lakers basketball team.
No one coming for the unhook ? What if the killer downs another survivor in the meantime ? That's 2 people on hooks
Except downing that second person is when the first would be unhooked, thus still negating Killer pressure for all but a handful of seconds.
I'm sorry but removing the timer is just too much of a Killer nerf/Survivor buff by allowing Survivors to focus on gens in a meta where they can already do all 5 gens in roughly 5 minutes.
Lmao ok thanks for the anecdote I'll remember that.
Like I said perks still exist. Killers would be much more rewarded for downing faster. 2 hooks stage mean you'll eventually turn the game in a 3v1 much faster than it is actually (which mostly results in a win, not always, but most of the time). I can tell a lot of people have ended up in that situation when they get 8 hooks and still no one is dead and you feel like you've gave your all and seek desperately for that death hook.
At that point I don't really like trying to defend my idea because it already doesn't even exist and I hear you, and partly agree with you on that point for sure. But if it's only this, as the idea doesn't truly exist, some adjustments could be made too, being perks or gameplay elements.
I don't know I'm just getting those thoughts fly by :
Ruin, anytime you hook a survivor, gain a token. For every token you have, the repairing speed slows down by X%
Or maybe anytime a generator is completed, any survivor hooked lose a "KOBE" chance, until they have none left and get sacrificed. (I can see this leading to troll play though)
Some non-so pertinent ideas, but I mean, at first it already is just one idea. I feel like having two hooks but still with a timer would be too much of a killer buff this time.
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@AngyKiller said:
Not really a good idea. I'm not sure what 'kobbies' means, but as for the rest:
If there was no hook timer; Survivors could just leave their friend on a hook & pound gens. There would be 0 pressure to rescue someone at this point.
The hook timer is Killer pressure; forcing at least 1 person off gens to save at least 1 person hooked, which means 1 hook = 2 Player's worth of pressure. This is gone if you remove hook timers.
Survivor: Oh no! My friend was hooked! But seeing as they cannot die unless hooked a second time; I can continue to do this gen while they enjoy literal immunity from death on the hook.
Sorry, but removing the timers is a horrible idea that turns into a massive nerf for Killers by removing a large part of their pressure when they hook someone.
Kobby is when you try your 4% chance of unhooking yourself. I'm sorry I don't exactly know how people spell that in general.
As for the pressure thing and generators, yes I thought of that but completely obliterated it from my mind while writing the post. And surely a large portion of survivors would definitely abuse that.
But you forgot there is not only a timer needed for pressure but the killer himself... AND perks still exist. (Pain of resonance, ruin, thanatophobia, pop goes the weasel) Think of it this way. No one coming for the unhook ? What if the killer downs another survivor in the meantime ? That's 2 people on hooks. If at this point the 2 last keep completing generators, they will eventually get hooked too and every 4 survivors will be sacrificed. Even if one of them comes to rescue the first while the last one keeps repairing, it means one survivor is already on his death hook. Your loss of time pressure on hook is vastly compensated by the -1 hook stage necessary to sacrifice a survivor at this point.
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As of now, the 12th of december, that bug happened to me too. But it was the first (and the last) time I went madness 3 in that game (we managed to escape as my only possibility was to bait the killer to chase me)