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Fun Fact, if you want an answer from Mandy in person you just need to write a message that's somewhat inappropriate. Your questions won't be answered, but at least you know they read it and choose to ignore it when they delete your post.
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Since my last post was deleted I'll say it again with more careful wording so that it will not be deleted.
By this point it is would be foolish of us users to assume that the replies we get are based on a lack of understanding on the support/dev teams side of bhvr, therefore the only reasonable assumption is that they just don't care about this issue and this user base so any attempt to further the cause will just be met with spite and backward thinking.
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@MandyTalk The problem isn't us not accepting that you guys aren't ready to release on Linux, the problem is noone telling us why you aren't ready to release on Linux. We'd be happy to wait months or maybe even another year for a Linux release if we just knew why we had to wait this long.
Please understand that it feels a little like being tricked into continuously following a community and development path that seemingly just refrains from clicking a box to spite a not unsubstantial part of users.
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I have come to realize that we might misunderstand the problem. It may be possible that there are significant issues with DbD in Proton that aren't connected to EAC at all and the devs are just "blocking" (not a bad thing necessarily just some lacking transparency) them behind the lacking EAC support until they can fix those since DbD is a game that's been fighting prejudice of being incredibly buggy and exploitable for years and the devs have apparently recently started to see that as an actual problem, hence the many bug, cheat and exploit fixes they gave.
A game that runs in Windows can be lacking in proton even without EAC, many don't always remember that when being blocked by EAC since then EAC is the most obvious point of attack and I'm embarrassed to have been one of them. I wish to offer my apologies to people I may have been passive aggressive too.
@MandyTalk, do you have the freedom to state whether or not the devs are currently actively working on Linux support at least if it is planned to be worked on any time soon? Of course no hard feelings if you can't state anything to that issue, and I apologize if the constant questions are getting annoying.
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@nikodemo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2977924#Comment_2977924
my hope is that it's just an oversight on the part of the VHS devs. but either way, it's not something i want repeated here.
I believe that's due to the closed beta version that's been distributed on SteamOS which had Proton support however the new version doesn't. I met someone who ran it on Linux desktop (I believe it was Arch but not sure) during the closed beta
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@MBAdept No reason to be sorry, it's been a long thread 😅
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@MBAdept Well yes obviously. As I've stated in this thread before, DBD runs in STADIA which runs on linux but isn't requiring EAC. But there aren't really any traps they can or have a feasible reason to put anywhere. You can't expect it to necessarily run ootb when it's first released for proton but a mild amount of tinkering should do the trick.
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The statement that they will be supporting Steam Deck and not Linux is most likely a statement to precisely what support means.
What they likely mean is not just that they will make the game playable in Proton (Which if it runs on SteamOS it will almost certainly run on all other Linux distros since Proton is a containerized instance which has it's dependencies and necessary libraries offered by valve for any and all distros) but that there will be some level of customer support for the game on the Steam Deck that won't be available for Linux users that run e.g. Arch or Ubuntu.
I'm assuming (and I specifically used a lot of conditional wording and didn't say I know anything since I can only give my best guesses with a certain amount of experience) that they are currently attempting to build up a customer or dev support team to handle Steam Deck specific issues which with training, testing and noting down most common issues and fixes for those issues can take up quite a bit of time.
Now to the previous statement: If you run any Linux distro that isn't SteamOS you will probably not be eligible to receive the aforementioned customer support, however, as a regular Linux user probably knows, you won't need a customer support. Within days of the release for proton there will be in depth guides and articles surrounding DbD on Linux distros other than SteamOS and how to make it run. There is no specific way to block any and all distros that aren't SteamOS reliably since again, developing for proton means developing for proton, not SteamOS. All Linux distros can do what SteamOS does if you tinker with it the right way. There is no reason to even attempt making the game unplayable on other Linux distros. I cannot stress this enough: there is absolutely no reason for the supportstatements to mean anything but customer support being limited to SteamOS and overall game support being available through some Linux typical tinkering at max for all distros.
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@Rokolell . It really is though.
Don't get me wrong, I'm really happy about what the team is doing right now (meaning getting rid of cheaters, patching bugs and exploits, etc) and I'm fine with waiting for Linux support a bit longer, but saying it isn't an easy thing to implement, especially at the point to which they already implemented it is just wrong. They're quite literally just routing the download to a non working eac-content-distribution-network url. If that download is fixed, which really really shouldn't take long, their work would be done and the game would be playable.
And to be clear, fixing the download link can literally be done by Behaviour going on their Epic Online Services Developer Portal and putting a checkmark next to enable proton support and the link will work.
@nikodemo Is the game rough due to latency or smt else? Because it is notable that STADIA runs on Linux therefore dbd on STADIA runs in a windows container of a Linux System. My best guess is that eac isn't necessary or already patched for STADIA dbd since loading kernel cheats in STADIA would be fairly difficult to do.