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Yeah i know and most people won't even say why they disagree (with actual good reasons).
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@Oputeeva said:
Sorry but you need play more solo survivor and not to play as a killer only, you will change your mind about gens speed 😁
I do play solo survivor and yes some games are rough as i go with people who want to do their challenges or use troll perks or can't loop at all but when they know what to do and sit on gens it's a joke how easy the games are.
In swf i can imagine it's a piece of cake to get 3/4 survivors to escape. -
I like that you guys are complaining about nerfing thrill of the hunt but you are still genrushing the whole game (which is the most optimal thing to do) while the killer can't tunnel (which is the most optimal thing to do) because of ds/dh/otr/stb.
Man stop crying about nerfing the killer because u need to get carried by perks and bad balancing of the game. -
@kit_mason said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3847362#Comment_3847362
You don't need every gen slowdown perk to mimic balance. Winning most of your matches with one slowdown, maybe two on the lower end of killers is more than enough.
If anything, quad slowdown needs to be reined in a bit if you ask me.
I never claimed that i use quad or every gen perk in the game.
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@kit_mason said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3847312#Comment_3847312
If you lost, you played poorly. That's how losing works.
In a balanced game it would work like that.
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@jesterkind said:
I would personally recommend not running all four slowdown perks, I find that has a nasty habit of backfiring sometimes.
Think about it for a second- with narrow exceptions, most slowdown perks require you to be getting downs or hooks in order to activate. If all your perks only do something after ending chases, with maybe only one like Deadlock being passive, that means one bad chase or any excess time spent trying to find a survivor puts you massively behind. Slowdown perks can't regress completed generators, so any gens done during that longer chase or searching downtime are lost for good, and most of them only damage one gen at a time so that's a lot of progression you can't undo if survivors are split up.
I'd recommend perks that help you find survivors quicker, end chases quicker, and generally minimise your downtime so your natural pressure can do the heavy lifting for you. The more you snowball by forcing survivors to react, the less they can do generators, and the easier time you'll have to keep going.
That's not to say you'll never have issues if you play this way, of course. Sometimes survivors are just better than you, and in cases where they aren't, toolboxes are still unbalanced- especially if everyone runs them. It will, however, help you with gen speeds in your average match, by a lot more than gambling on quad slowdowns.
Thanks for the reply and i get your perspective and i agree with it. Having 4 gen slow down perks can backfire and having aura reading, chase etc perks can help with downing faster the survivors.
In my post i didn't say that my build has 4 gen slow down perks nor i use 4 gen slow down perks (tbh they have nerfed so many of them that you can't really use 4 of them and even if you did some don't have good synergy with each other)
Regardless everybody has being on a situation where you feel you didn't had a bad chase but the moment you hook somebody 2-3 gens are done or few sec after the hook 2-3 gens will be done and you just got 1 hook out of the 12.
Heck people are posting that in 1v4 (comparing it to 2v8) there are games that the killer never chases them and it's boring and that's for 2 reasons
1: One survivor is doing a good job looping the killer (take it however you want as they could be dropping every pallet in the game or the killer is straight up newbie)
2: The gens were done so fast that they game ended very fast and never had the chance to get chased by the killer.
I am not asking for survivors to be nerfed to the ground but i want the game to be balanced, to say 'hey i played it poorly and that's why i lost' and not 'i had fast chases i went for the correct people etc and i still lost because of unbalances'.
Most likely they will never bring big nerfs to survivors as most people mainly play survivor and they don't want to admit that they deserve a nerf. A very good example is 2v8 mode, it was super survivor side and yet some people claim it was killer sided… -
I win almost all my games too but there are occasions that i lose and that wasn't because i played it poorly but because the gens were done in a matter of a few minutes.
Not every game me, you and others will go against people who will sit on gens and do their objective properly but instead they will go do some challengers maybe boon a totem, try a flashlight save etc which in the end you are assiting the killer by doing those stuff as you are not sitting on a gen.
We should be looking into the game where people go for their objective and according to that we balance the game. -
You are assuming that there are no survivors in the ground/hooked etc in my games.
If you go against survivors who their only goal is to win/escape trust me they will sit on gens even if there are hexes and everything else that you mentioned. Especially now that they increased the hook stage for no reason at all (aka they can spend more time on a gen before going for the save).
As i said and which you agreed which is nice is make the gens more interesting to do which i doubt the excuse of them flying is because they hate repairing them. -
Instead of relying on chill players maybe we should nerf those syringes and some survivor perks.
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@Marc_123 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3840173#Comment_3840173
Maybe try to think of players who aren´t as good as you.
I also met some nasty combos of very fast killers who had great double tapping and cage rushing - that is not very fun.
Then why is he/she complaining on forum about it if it's a skill issue?
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@physcokat said:
This game mode ######### sucks, how do you people like this crap? It's ######### miserable as survivor. There is no redemption for this game mode as far as I can tell.
We are playing a whole different game then
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I personally go for the 4k because i am sick and tired of survivors tbag at exit gate and trash talking you at end game chat by saying stuff like 'ezzzzzz' when they clearly lost only escaped either because exit gates are from from each other or they found the rng hatch.
I wouldn't mind giving 1 survivor a free escape but at least be a good sport about it. -
@Spare_Them_Mori_Me said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3824225#Comment_3824225
All good. You just deny anything I said and give nothing back. Enjoy your games!
Legit you did the same. Enjoy yours too!
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You have no idea man. No one does. I can say you're low mmr and have the same credibility. It doesn't make your opinion any more valid than anyone else.
That's the thing tho i am not the only one with this opinion so it can't be only me who is delusional.
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@Spare_Them_Mori_Me said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3822809#Comment_3822809
As a Killer main with hgh MMR
You have no idea man. No one does. I can say you're low mmr and have the same credibility. It doesn't make your opinion any more valid than anyone else.
Even when i play as nurse to have more chill games and my chases last a few seconds the gens are still flying and i need to tunnel to win the game.
If one feels like they have to tunnel with nurse, how 'chill' is that to you, exactly? It's more accurate to say one -has- to tunnel with weak killers. But you are getting on the strongest killer and saying 'I have to tunnel'. Well, you probably do. Its a skill level thing. BUt most don't with nurse. I'll happily take this argument.
Ofc survivor mains trash talk me at the end game chat for not caring about their feelings and not following the survivor rule book.
And you shouldn't. That rulebook thing has always been bad lol, so agree with you there!
Lately (past month or two) i have being playing survivor and oh my god it's so fk chill and fun compared to playing as killer.
This itself should show how unbalanced the game is and how survivor side it is.
That doesn't actually show anything. At all. What a strange thing to try and link together.
Heck you can even check the tournaments that people do with teams like eternity or however they are called and u can clearly see survivors are winning.
Yes… yes lets look at the top 0.1% and say the game is busted.
Now that I know you are 100% killer biased, I can categorize your posts moving forward in the 'Dont need to pay too much attention here.' You false claims are just kind of meh and plentiful on these forums. Enjoy your games!
Brother i don't know what copium you are inhaling but everything i said are facts you want to believe it or not.
You playing trapper and claiming you win your games and you are high MMR just shows with how low level survivors you play with.
Against a good swf survivors will coordinate and disarm your traps making you a simple M1 killer and of course you are gonna use the add on that injures healthy survivors or not being able to escape the trap by their own and claim that i am getting nice hits or you just hooking them on basement and trap the whole place making it impossible to save the hooked person.
Me playing survivor in solo q and having more chill games compared to killer is a thing that many main killers say. It's just facts you just sit on gens do skill checks 1-3 times you will have some chases and that's it.
No need to even mention how more busted it is if you are in a vc with others cordinating and doing call outs.
Maybe if you show the game as wider you will notice 1-2 simple stuff. -
@Spare_Them_Mori_Me said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3821426#Comment_3821426
False. You can win without tunneling. Plenty do it. All the time. Perhaps you just need more playtime under your belt?
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3821448#Comment_3821448
What a strange and very false take. No one plays perfect though. Ever. And your level of perfection might be a lower level than someone else's. Perfection doesn't belong in dbd talks. It just doesn't work.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3821434#Comment_3821434
Ahh, holding W tech.
You're literally complaining about basic functions of the game in this excerpt. A lot of them lol.
Seriously, I know I just referenced three things from this one poster, but its just ridiculous the claims being made. Just play the game. You're doing more complaining than playing. And making stuff up to boot. I do enjoy these comedic posts from time to time, but wow lol.
How to say u are a low MMR killer and barely play killer without saying it.
You might as well chech this as you don't have a lot of exp in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1lsSyVLBpg -
I agree with OP , as a killer main with high MMR the gen speed is nuts. Even when i play as nurse to have more chill games and my chases last a few seconds the gens are still flying and i need to tunnel to win the game.
Ofc survivor mains trash talk me at the end game chat for not caring about their feelings and not following the survivor rule book.
Lately (past month or two) i have being playing survivor and oh my god it's so fk chill and fun compared to playing as killer.
This itself should show how unbalanced the game is and how survivor side it is.
Heck you can even check the tournaments that people do with teams like eternity or however they are called and u can clearly see survivors are winning.