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I've noticed quite a few little bugs like that with Trickster specifically with his voice lines. They tend not to play as much as before, if at all when he gets stunned. Not to mention, often times the first line of his mori doesn't play at all. Now this bug?
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@FreeKnives said:
To my newer console and controller fam,
I know some of you are so focused on no recoil and 4.6.
Trickster was always available to you. Recoil was not the main issue with aim, it was using the joystick and building muscle memory in general, as well as knowing when you can shoot because of recoil on controller. You were always more than capable of being lethal with this killer at 4.4. Im not saying recoil should be on Trickster, or that it wasn't harder on controller, but Im saying dont ignore the nerfs of this update for no recoil. You shouldn't be satisfied with Trickster's skill expression being gutted, or his nerfs, just because you are afraid to lose no recoil and 4.6. I understand some think he was unplayable, but I and many other console Tricksters who have hundreds to thousands of hours are proof that he was more than just playable. Remember this was all supposed to be a buff, to help. And instead, it became a rework to Main Event/ his basekit, and an overall nerf. If you want 4.6, thats fine, but its not needed to be an effective skill-expressive ranged killer with Trickster on console. Yes 4.6 is nice, yes it would be cool if we could have both, 4.4 Trickster base kit but 4.6..... I could be wrong but I think BHVR is saying you can't have both...you can't have 4.6 and have his 4.4 Trickster Main Event and skill expression of his power. And his power is everything, it's what makes him fun. So if BHVR is making this a trade for 4.6, then why would you trade that usefulness and skill expression of his power and Main Event, for being more useful to just basic attack? Every Trickster main hates not using their knives to down someone...
I was p99 when this update dropped, always Rank 1 and thats without using overly oppressive perks. My fellow console player friends, are also high prestige and also did well with 4.4 Trickster.... I'm telling you, if there has to be a trade with Tricksters base kit for 4.6, you are getting less than you had with 4.4 Trickster. You are losing what made him fun and viable in higher MMR. You could do so many cool things with accuracy (because of throw rate/laceration decay) and Main Event from 4.4 Trickster, even with controller. Im sad you guys will never get to experience that joy and pride of being a 4.4 Console Trickster for all that he was and all the skill you had to build up to be one. You would have been very respected, and immediately bonded with other Controller Tricksters for the patience and dedication to be one.
Controller fam, you didnt need this update to be good at Trickster. You just needed more time and more practice. This was just supposed to be a little bit of a buff and quality of life change... I dont know what happened. But I implore you, dont accept the nerfs.
I said a lot in my initial post for Trickster...and the All-Kill chapter in general but I came back to back up FreeKnives' position. I play Trickster on PC but on CONTROLLER. Yes, I torture myself in that way because I just find his power and his character fun. I don't pay attention to numbers or 4King each match. I just want to have fun with a killer and Trickster was it even if I struggled on controller. Too many players in this community want the easy way out which is fine - that's how they play.
But when it feels they are rewarded for it as opposed to those that actually put in effort, it's quite insulting. I'm speaking for myself but I don't want to be babied just because I'm on controller. I didn't care for recoil and I didn't mind being 4.4. If THIS is the Trickster we get for 4.6 then I don't want him.
Honestly, I pray for whichever killer BHVR works on next because if Trickster and Sadako's reworks have taught me anything, it's that BHVR is seriously disappointing and out of touch. Honestly makes me sad considering I believed BHVR was better than other gaming companies on community feedback and transparency.
P.S. I noticed Trickster has an unused add-on in the files called "SmashnRun Gloves". Is that ever going to be used or help his "rework"?
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Hello, I never thought I would be this disgruntled enough by a change in DBD to make a post but here I am. I'm a relatively newer player to DBD. I only started playing last year around this time and have recently taken breaks here and there but still engage in a lot of DBD content. I've come to really love this game despite never playing anything like it before and the chapter I really grew to love was the All-Kill chapter in general. I main both characters from it and while I play mostly survivor, I love hopping onto killer to play my other main (he was the first killer I picked up despite knowing how difficult he'd be on controller).
Now I just want to ask, what did Trickster do to piss off the Entity?
I can't speak to the logistics since I never pay close attention to any of that. Though I will say that Main Event is kind of a joke now. It feels like more of a sideshow and I'd rather have the original 30 blade activation ME instead of what we have now. However enough people have pointed out the RevertTrickster doc that two Trickster mains wrote up. Personally, I can say that Trickster was better before the rework. I don't understand who this rework was for: current Trickster mains or potential Trickster mains? No one really asked for Trickster to be changed. I saw far more people cry for Twins, Myers, Freddy, etc.
You are clearly listening to the wrong people. Please understand Trickster is for a niche set of players. Mass appeal does NOT work. Listen to the people who main him, who appreciate his character both gameplay and lore-wise. It feels like you listen to those who don't care or outright hate Trickster which I feel is a lot of major content creators and the community at large.
Not to mention this rework being thrown into the Chucky PTB felt like a slap in the face. I don't mind Chucky at all and think it is really cool what you did with him (And Tiff) but it really brought to my attention that BHVR really cares more for license content. The contrast between Chucky and Trickster couldn't be more stark. I understand license = bigger revenue but seeing Chucky handled with so much care and attention while Trickster is handled so sloppily is not a great look.
Personally, I would have loved more QoL stuff for Trickster like more voice lines which are bugged currently or even a map or a rework of his perks (how come NONE of his perks or even add-ons cause the survivor to scream, isn't that his whole shtick?). His charm has been lost or maybe the team working on his gameplay and perks never truly had an understanding for his character and personality. It's a shame because looking as a new player to DBD it seemed like All-Kill had a lot of effort put into it in the beginning: from the animated teasers, to the phone calls where we can hear Yun-Jin and Trickster speak to each other (that no one seems to know about for some reason), to the behind the scenes stuff on the music and lore.
I don't get it. Where did that drive go? Even his map got scrapped and seems unlikely to be released ever. It also seems like you all forgot about the K-pop aspect of a K-POP chapter. Cosmetic-wise both Yun-Jin and Trickster have been lacking in K-pop inspired or Korean streetwear inspired clothes (even DBD mobile has more K-pop inspired fits than the core game). Like the Neon Nights collection and Yun-Jin's fit in that. How hard is it to reference Korean fashion? I heard parts of the Korean community are not happy with most of the the All-Kill duo's fashion. Look at the leading ladies and gentlemen in K-pop for inspiration. I know cosmetics is not the point of the post but I feel so frustrated over the handling of this chapter in general in the present day that I couldn't wait for another survey to dump my thoughts there. Anyways, the creativity and vision lacking in such simple things as this is disappointing especially seeing how the actual K-pop industry has a plethora of inspiration to draw from.
Consequently, I want to end with that I do appreciate the space in my life DBD has now taken up and I applaud the team for doing their best to improve the game constantly even when/if they miss the mark. But this rework? This was not it and made me really rethink my stance on BHVR as a company. It's unfortunate because even if Trickster is reverted it probably won't be for another year. I still want to play and enjoy him but I'm not sure and it makes me feel so sad honestly. Trickster isn't Demo or Bubba or Billy who the general playerbase loves, he is NICHE and changes, buffs, QoL, etc. should appeal to the people who play him and love to verse him. I have seen enough of this community to come to that conclusion because people who hate Trickster will never like him no matter what you do. Sorry for the long post and I highly doubt anyone will read from start to finish but it feels nice to give my thoughts in a cathartic way. Thank you.