Khaoswolf94
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@UsernamePending said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1716379#Comment_1716379
If it was to be a nerf then it shouldn’t be snuck under like a shadow nerf, besides spine chill and iron can keep her guessing because half the time the iron will bug causes no sound to come from injured survivors so all you do is walk away.
Exactly, some people don't WANT to believe she has counterplay. They'll never be satisfied with any answer regardless of how legitimate the strategy is. Their only argument is "Your dumb, stupid, and oblivious" then proceeding to complain some more without actually addressing why xyz counter isn't viable.
But ohhh boy if you touch their precious Decisive strike, they get upset. Anyone else remember that bug and how many people wanted it to stay? But now the shoes on the other foot, and they do exactly the same thing they cried about last year. This community in majority is disgusting.
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This is a terrible bug. If this stays then what's the point of even being invisible if you know where she is. It's the same old excuse.
Oh Spirit is Invisible - There's no counterplay.
Oh Freddy teleports to gens - there's no counterplay
Oh legion can vault windows and pallets - There's no counterplay
Oh Billy and Bubba can one shot you - There's no counterplay
Wraith goes invisible?! - There's no counterplay!
KiLlErS hAvE pOwErS - tHeReS nO cOuNtErPlAy!!!11!!!1!
This is nothing short of disgusting. How it's always people who don't play killer to nerf them because they have everything to gain and nothing to lose. But when a survivor is at the receiving end of the nerf all chaos breaks loose.
It's all fine and dandy as long as you're ruining our (Spirit Mains) fun. Because if they nerf a survivor you van just switch to another one with the same perks. No big deal. Killers being nerfed hits us different.
I don't play spirit because people think she's OP. I play her because I like Ghosts. I like her Theme, her Character. Stop being such selfish crybabies. Your not entitled to escape every single match. It's a 4v1 odds are at least one of you aren't going to make it against any decent killer. Then you cry for a nerf on the forums. It's sick.
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Why does everyone treat a bug report that happens to be known as some kind of crime or something. Jesus, so what if they didn't read the patch notes. The OP was trying to help. Instead just say,
"thanks for posting. It's a known issue. Bhvr is working on it."
Instead of telling them to "Just read the patch notes." who's going to check the notes every time an issue comes up. Not me. Just report it. If it's known, great. Move on.
This has got to be the most toxic and corrosive forum I've ever seen, I swear.
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I'm gonna end up making a whole video compilation putting this whiney survivor main propoganda crap to rest.
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Tldr: Spirit is not functioning as the devs intended. Your feelings on the matter are entirely irrelevant. If you want another nerf that's a conversation we can have (ex: Spirit can keep her sound bug if survivors can keep the Decisive Strike bug which is still powerful, already been nerfed once and could probably be nerfed again.) But bugs need to be fixed, right? It is broken by definition, broken things need to be fixed end of discussion.
With regard to spirit,
Here we go again... In case you missed it here's a handful of perks used to counter spirit effectively just off the top of my head.
1. Spine Chills
2. Mettle of Man
3. Dance with Me
4. Fixated
5. Iron Will
Killers are, by design, outnumbered 4 to 1. They're meant to be powerful, meant to equal the strength of 4 survivors. The forums are no different to the ratio. Further proof of disproportion can be found in the lobby wait times for survivors and killers. Everything these guys are saying can be, and have been said about every other killer. Billy and Bubba can one shot you, it has no counterplay. Legion can ignore pallets and he has no counter play. Nurse can literally yeet through walls, she has no counterplay. Ohhhh the counterplay, killers get perks and powers. That's Sooo not fair.
*Eyeroll of the Century*
List of rediculous nerfs survivors have requested in forums on spirit.
-Make her vacuum heard in terror radius.
-make it so she can't see scratch marks while phasing
-reduce her phasing speed by 25%
-delete her
-remove prayer beads
Yet there are videos on TURs page on YouTube showing a Spirit being ran for 5 gens. Theres videos of trutalent juking a spirit for a whole match.
Survivors: "Well, those are just bad spirits, a good spirit would take full advantage of her broken powers."
YEAH...DUH... Same with ANY 'Good Killer'. They're good and know the characters abilities and limitations. Just because you don't like being instant downed, or outplayed by a killer Power doesn't mean it needs a nerf. No more then me losing all 4 survivors means that survivors are too OP either.
It's sad when people hate something so much that they would rather see it broken. Despite all reasons not to.
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It literally says in the tips during loading to fake phasing by standing still. You can't say there isn't any counterplay because Iron Will even against stridor is still quite good, and the best one.. You can't lie to spine chills. If they fake phasing just walk away and make them look dumb.
The "No Counterplay" Myth has been debunked many times in the last couple years. This is getting to a point of derangement. It can be said about any killer. (Billy's chainsaw, Myers instant down, pyramids magic Hooks, spirits phase walk, wraiths invisible body block, etc.) let's get down to the bottom line.
This is obviously not supposed to work this way. If it was devs wouldn't suggest the fake phasing in the tips section. Spirits Been through heavy nerfs already. Now it's at a point where people would rather see her broken then functioning because of hate. It's like killers aren't even allowed to hit you without the overwhelming majority of survivors screaming for a nerf. While we killer mains are left in the minority with nerf after nerf. Epitomy of entitlement. It's a vocal majority because, by design there has to be 4x more survivors, then killers.
Bottom line, if it's broken Just fix it. Otherwise this is the last straw and imma really give survivors something to complain about.
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Bump
Can confirm this is still an issue on PS4.
LOADING SCREEN: "You can Fake phasing by standing still."
Not with this bug in its current state. Her whole thing was being hard to predict or read.
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I never knew how many truly toxic and whiney survivors were in the forums until today. Imagine hating something so much that you don't care if its broken. But would just about rather see it outright removed. Saying there's no counterplay to standing still is such a childish and nonsensical complaint. As many times as I've faked phasing to watch a survivor walk away slowly making me look like a fool. Or walk away after I really am phasing just for me to miss.
The only time you get whacked by the standing still thing. Is if your dumb self stands there and does nothing.
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I'm all for something being balanced. I was reluctant to agree to the changes in 2019 as a baby spirit. In hindsight it would've been unfair knowing what I know now. I see the changes did need to be made. Some less then others but overall a change that both killers and survivors agreed with.
This "Bug" is not intended, it breaks her ability. It's right there in the description. This is NOT supposed to be like this.
Imagine if survivors had a stamina bar for running. Or better yet, imagine if there was a bug that caused survivors to run slower when injured... That'd be lovely. I could go on about how realistic it is and how it makes being injured more of a threat. And how that's a good thing. But it wouldn't be fair. I'd be grasping at straws to try and shine a turd. That's exactly what is going on with spirit right now.
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@SquirrelKnight said:
Love it when people hate something so much that they dont care if its literally broken and doesnt function as intended. As long as they get their way
Exactly, the bottom line is this.
SHE ISN'T WORKING AS INTENDED.
BHVR Loading Screen: "You can Fake out survivors by pretending to phase."
Bug: "No you can't"
Survivor Mains: "We're cool with that."
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@hillbillyclaudmain69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/200547/fix-spirits-phasing-sound-bug
I hope you realize that that bug puts her in a good spot. You can't constantly hear her so now you can pull off even more mindgames with her. I think it's fair and I hope they keep it.
I realize the affects of the bug and they are more adverse for the people trying to play her. They benifit survivors to the detriment of the killer. In other words, the cost benifit to survivors is greater then then any perceived benifit for spirit.
1. You can no longer fake phasing
2. Phasing no longer presents an positional advantage since players know where you are.
3. It has been reduced to a speed boost with a charge up time.
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Stop: before you comment saying it's a good bug. If you don't play spirit, try getting a win against a good SWF who walk all over your face because your playing spirit and you can't be sneaky anymore because they can hear you coming a mile away. If you don't play spirit, this post isn't for you. She may be more fun to play against. But she certainly isn't very fun to play with like this.