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  • Not only do they fail to add an anti-tunneling system, but they also nerf the only decent perk against it 😀
    Pretty good job so far!!! (being sarcastic, in case they don’t get it right either)

  • Just happened again, but now I was the one getting moried without any hooks

  • This just occurred to a teammate

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  • Exactly. Debs just forgot this is an horror game. This was the core of the game.

  • Go play something else, don't ruin the game for us.

  • @Seraphor said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3729600#Comment_3729600

    Why can't niche/meme perks exist?

    We get 3/6 new survivor perks every chapter, they can't all be meta, in fact we're lucky if we get one decent perk and 2 trash perks. Making some of them have niche effects that require specific setups, or straight up meme/challenge perks, is a neat way to make these trash perks actually useful.

    Chaos Shuffle is it's own thing, and it's all in the name. No one should be taking games seriously in this game mode, those who do are the problem here.

    That's not a meme perk. Imagine as a killer you have a perk that autosabotage hooks. That's just straight up dumb isn't it? Then we will be telling you you're the problem for taking the game too seriously.

  • "I said Freddy is strong and easy to play" no sh** einstein 😂

    "But you are saying that Nurse is weak because of that chart" You make up half of the things "I say" 🤣 thats really lame. need no chart but is ok.

    And of course you are wasting your time, your arguments are pitiful ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ have a good day

  • Haha cmon, do you struggle a lot playing Freddy? Im just staying real facts, if you wanna ignore real data, and make up 2 thousand variables then go ahead 😊

  • If you understand stadistics then you'll find out main nurses are the first source of information in nurses data. Other players like Hillbilly o Spirit mains are a slower percentage and not that meaningful. Red ranks, are still on his majority experienced players.

    "you dont want to make him harder to play", ive never told that thing, maybe making it harder will compensate his capacity.

    "I said that the Nurse is the strongest killer in the game, and that chart doesnt reflect that" and, as you can see, you are wrong. That you don't like the stats doesnt mean you can ignore it.

    "you think that chart goes against the idea that nurse have a higher learning curve than Freddy" No, you are not paying attention, I didnt mean nurse haven't a learning curve, she does, but even in the pinnacle she is not as strong as before, is just weak. Again, dont ignore the charts because you dont like it.

    So "there is also the fact that Freddy is a strong killer, but not an unfair one", really? Being a good killer (4K, of course) after learning how to play with a nurse for months to become the strongest killer is fair, but being strong (with o without experience) just because flaws in the desings of the killer is just not good for me, nor anyone.

    "But that chart doesnt say that he is the strongest killer in the game" actually it says that, I dont know wich chart are you looking at.

    And you are staying that "Oblivious status effect" made a huge impact on Freddy, and that may be more balanced? Come on, what a joke.

    "To extend this you have to take into consideration all the perks changes", general perks changes doesnt afect a particular killer, thats out of subject.

    I guess you haven't played nurse in a while, maybe you should try. Then you could stop making up things.

  • @Nanglaur said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1503321#Comment_1503321

    To be fair, that info is useless without knowledge about the game. Its super old and a lot has change since then, and at the same time you are not considering the learning curve for those killers. Nurse is the lowest because is the hardest, so the only nurse having succes are the good nurses, but everybody has acces to nurse, making all that info to spread between a few good players and a lot of bad players. Freddy without a doubt is a strong and easy killer, for the most part having some mid level of skill will allow you to win most matches (consider 2k as a win), but that doesnt make him unfair or anything like that, he is easy, but why is that a problem? You cant have every killer to have a huge learning curve as the nurse, because there is nowhere to start as a new player, thats the main reason that trapper is and will always be the most popular killer where almost everyone starts, he is easy to play (Yes, there is some learning curve and adaptation a long the way, but its not huge) does that makes trapper and unfair killer? No.

    So the problem here is not that he is "easy" to play, your problem is that he is a bit too opressive, and the truth is that he is not that big of a deal. In my opinion he is really boring to play against, because of how the "dream world" works, that realm doesnt add enough to the game to be an interesting killer.

    Hey ☺️

    Freddy havent been touched since yet, (fear from devs) so your point is not really valid. And giving less people access to the nurse doesnt implies they are quite better, let me include red ranks stats for you.

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    As you can see she stills weak between good players. This chart can refuse your learning curve hypothesis. ☺️ And I agree, it is boring to play against freddy.

  • @Bard said:

    What a joke.

    These stats are heavily skewed by new/unskilled players, and as such are worthless.

    Trapper is only popular among new players. Past that, he's a niche killer that is rarely played at all.

    Plague being unpopular is certainly true, but if your statistical model only draws one correct conclusion out of four, that's still a failing grade.

    Freddy is certainly a strong killer, but he's not the strongest. He's just pretty strong whilst also being one of the easiest killers in the game.

    Nurse being the weakest killer is laughable, and makes this entire post dubious at best. Your interpretation of this graph meaning that Nurse has been "nerfed too heavily" is even more laughable, because this graph was released by the devs literally one month after the Nurse update, meaning the stats were heavily skewed by Baby Nurses getting 0 kills after being booted off of Omegablink cold turkey.

    I just put those stats like a reference but I cheked a lot, please don't tell they are skewed without verifying🙄. I agree trapper is not the famous killer between red ranks, I've seen the stats, and guess what, they have similarities.

    Here goes more stats so you can verify:

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  • You completaly sound like a baby killer that dont like being bad at the game, over use bbq and likes freddy.

    1. Bbq counters are not balanced, hiding in a locker anytime a decent killer hooks a survivor takes in total a lot of time, and if you dont know the value of time in this game you are a complete noob. Probably you will suck when playing without bbq and that will prove my point.
    2. I didnt fail to acknoledge nothing, i saw those stats and they are on point (like 5% nothing away from usual) (oh, and to be honest ds only punish a killer for being tunneling so sorry but not sorry)(and yes noed has a balance, its not reliable, thats why people don't over abuse it)
    3. Don't cry for camping, just learn to play, is a fact of matter that some people just camp because they had a bad match recently
    4. The nurse was hella nerfed, and I'm pretty sure you haven't play nurse in a while so you are just talking like a dumb. She was strong back then, now she just got good reputation from those days.
  • Finals of last year? No, they haven't really change freddy since then, so the issue stills. Devs can confirm stats if they want to. And you can't just ignore stats because you don't like what you see.

  • @GoshJosh said:

    Remove Freddy's ridiculous teleport ability (or at least the ability to fake it); the passive falling asleep; and only one clock across the map to wake up; and he will be in a more balanced place. As it stands now, he is incredibly overpowered and simply not fun to play against.

    Trapper is most popular, and by that much of a margin? Perhaps because he is included with the base game? Otherwise, I can't figure that one out. Lol.

    Yes, it should be because he is the first killer selected on the list, so he is the first killer anyone plays

  • Yeah, they nerfed her really bad, in red ranks she is still lower than the average

  • @Dr_Trauts said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/178350/listen-to-stats-please

    you do realise this includes people suiciding on hook etc. which then subsequently means the other 3 people are most likely going to die as well when they otherwise might not have.

    Woundnt base everything off the stats. They dont come out frequently enough to base much off of them

    Like I said, numbers dont lie, and devs can prove stats still the same, otherwise they can just ignore this post.


    And this also includes farming matches, so stats are quite balanced (not perfect). And he is still on the top for a reason.


    You cant just ignore stats because they dont show what you like.

  • I'm sick of these main killer crying babys, he needs not more than low skill to have a good match. And if you dont think so is just because you suck as a killer and you need to learn how to play.

    Here some official stats:

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    To make it clearer killers should be on the 50% of kill rate (yes, according to devs) and makes sense to me, so if you like freddy you just like an easy killer.


    Oh and 2 more things for those crying babys: ds is neccesary just because of tunneling killers (not useful in other way), and bbq is the most used perk because it has not a reasonable counterplay (and i can argue with anyone about it)

  • I don't know how to say it, but these killer main boys are all such a crying baby, I mean, he is actually op (yes, the forbiden word), and if you don't think that way probably is just because you suck as a killer and you have to learn to play. Here some official stats (ps, devs said a balanced number should be 2 kills per match, and makes sense):

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  • @DminuS said:

    hes not that strong mate. good teams with object will annahilate any freddy, i ruined freddies with over 10k in the game.

    That's dumb, you just got bad Freddys, here some official info:

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  • Pardon my english, i'll include the stats here:

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  • I totally aprove this

  • Completly agree, this is the main issue of this killer