some balance ideas for DS and moris

bosh

DS should act as if you are not the obsession if you ARE (wiggle to 35/40/45% depending on level) and should wiggle to maybe 40/45/50% depending on level? what do you guys think?

as for mori changes it should be a killer ADD-ON not offering. this is both a nerf and a buff. its a nerf as the killer may only bring one other addon with a mori, and a buff because it stops disconnects when survivors see the killer popped a secret offering. this would stop moris being wasted, which is unfair.

bosh

*should wiggle to maybe 40/45/50% depending on level if you are not the obsession and are still running DS

Global

Why does mori have to be nerfed? Its not op and it certainly isnt a problem its the killers equivalent to flashlight or brand new part it just allows the killer to have more fun. It in no way helps during the match other than killing someone faster and even then you get less blood points for using it.

bosh

@Global said:
Why does mori have to be nerfed? Its not op and it certainly isnt a problem its the killers equivalent to flashlight or brand new part it just allows the killer to have more fun. It in no way helps during the match other than killing someone faster and even then you get less blood points for using it.

while it does not need a nerf this is a buff for the mori, but a nerf for addons. i think survivors DCing when they see the killer has a mori is totally unfair and needs changing. the other option is moris just DON'T SHOW for survivors in the offering screen... that is a good idea aswell

Global

@bosh said:

@Global said:
Why does mori have to be nerfed? Its not op and it certainly isnt a problem its the killers equivalent to flashlight or brand new part it just allows the killer to have more fun. It in no way helps during the match other than killing someone faster and even then you get less blood points for using it.

while it does not need a nerf this is a buff for the mori, but a nerf for addons. i think survivors DCing when they see the killer has a mori is totally unfair and needs changing. the other option is moris just DON'T SHOW for survivors in the offering screen... that is a good idea aswell

i agree I do hate when survivors dc when they see my secret offerings but your missing other offerings like black ward that allow you to keep your mori no matter the out come of the game.

AsePlayer

There's two sides to this, killers will leave when they see a 4 man with flashlights. Don't have my items shown to them either.

bosh

@Global you are right i did forget whoops. perhaps the other idea that it does not show for survs would be better

bosh

@AsePlayer killers dodge the lobbys not games. you dont lose your items when we dc, we lose our moris

Global

@bosh said:
@Global you are right i did forget whoops. perhaps the other idea that it does not show for survs would be better

well having another thought i guess it could work as micheal has 2 addons that allow him to mori but he still gets black ward so i guess it wouldnt really matter. xD

Someissues

It's not a buff for the Mori, survivors will still disconnect when they see the mori animation. Why would you think they would stop disconnect if Killer uses it as an addon

and you loses an addon slot, some killers are extremely reliant on addons EG Trapper

you have to be pretty stupid to think it would stop them from DCing. survivors DC for whatever reason, when they get downed, hooked, i see no reason to nerf it just for catering the minority, all those people that abused DC needs to get banned

if they DC let them DC, they would eventually get banned and they lost all BP/ offering on that match so I'm fine with that

AsePlayer

@bosh said:
@AsePlayer killers dodge the lobbys not games. you dont lose your items when we dc, we lose our moris

Killers can DC and neuter Survivor's offerings too. This is a gameplay issue not just a Mori one.

Global

@bosh They are nerfing decisive to were they cant get off you but it just freezes you in place for a few seconds.

Someissues

@AsePlayer said:
Killers can DC and neuter Survivor's offerings too. This is a gameplay issue not just a Mori one.

Killers lose items and offering if they DC, survivor only offering, though I agree the losing offering cuz Killer DC needs to get fixed

lyric

bosh said:

@AsePlayer killers dodge the lobbys not games. you dont lose your items when we dc, we lose our moris

That is bullshit sir , killers dc out of game a lot more than you know and survivors lose everything when they do , you say nothing is worse than wasting a mori when people dc but everytime people start running more than one escape cake or put a flashlight on last second to keep the killer from lobby dodging they almost always dc , lobby dodging is also bullshit because your rank means nothing if you’re constantly  avoiding certain survivors or killers all the time 

AsePlayer

The only way to probably truly make it so people don't DC on a Mori is to give them extra points or insure they at least safety pip. You'd be rewarding them for dying essentially but the main reason they leave in the first place is because they feel unjustly killed.

bosh

@lyric OH NO I ANGERED THE SURVIVOR MAIN! HELPPPPP

bosh

@AsePlayer as a surv i always stick around to see the animation... i think not losing bps for dcing is fair enough for taking the mori

bosh

@Global said:
@bosh They are nerfing decisive to were they cant get off you but it just freezes you in place for a few seconds.

thank you for informing me. i did not think this change was coming tho?

Global

@bosh said:

@Global said:
@bosh They are nerfing decisive to were they cant get off you but it just freezes you in place for a few seconds.

thank you for informing me. i did not think this change was coming tho?

Its not coming to the current PTB im not sure when they are releasing it but i cant wait for it.

bosh

@Global ikr thank god. u a trapper main?

Global

@bosh said:
@Global ikr thank god. u a trapper main?

I use to be got him prestiege 3 n all (after my progress got reset but thats a story for a different time) But i needed different perks that didnt appear on the shrine so i started playing different killers and now I just play who ever is the most fun like michael.

bosh

@Global myers is pretty cool... im a doc main so most people hate me but i play a lot of clown as well. he is so thicc

lyric

bosh said:

@lyric OH NO I ANGERED THE SURVIVOR MAIN! HELPPPPP

I’m not even angered lol I just think you’re wrong, I  play both sides of the coin even though I do survivor more. I think anyone who dodges is wrong and anyone who purposely dc is wrong no matter which side you’re on, I’ll never dc to a mori because I would rather go down at least trying to make the killer feel like he wasted it by everyone escaping  

lyric

bosh said:

@lyric OH NO I ANGERED THE SURVIVOR MAIN! HELPPPPP

But on your topic I believe the killer deserves to have the ability to mori the last survivor every game as a standard build and only the ebony mori should be an offering but allowing you the option of more than one kill scene 

bosh

@lyric sorry mate i was rude and anyone who alternates is ok in my book. i respect your opinion and completely agree- disconnecting is wrong

bosh

@lyric said:
bosh said:

@lyric OH NO I ANGERED THE SURVIVOR MAIN! HELPPPPP

But on your topic I believe the killer deserves to have the ability to mori the last survivor every game as a standard build and only the ebony mori should be an offering but allowing you the option of more than one kill scene 

i think that is an excellent idea and would nerf the hatch aswell, cos closing it isnt an option anymore

Global

@bosh said:
@Global myers is pretty cool... im a doc main so most people hate me but i play a lot of clown as well. he is so thicc

RIP dude the new calm spirit that is coming out will destroy doc dude it makes it so survivors don't scream when shocked or high madness.