Thoughts on the demogorgon (from stream).
Could be strong as we don’t entirely know everything about him but so far seems empty..? Just feels like there’s a lot of lost potential from him and the devs decided to go with two simple factors. While the portals are nice there’s a few tweaks and fixes that could make it better and a surprise. The lunge on the other hand feels bland and unusable in high ranks imo. :/
Power - Teleportation. The ability to teleport with the demogorgon automatically makes him stronger than most M1 killers with map pressure however while it’s nice to get from one place to the other it’s also risky and survivor dependent (being able to destroy them). Another drawback from the portals is the red glow that emits when teleporting. Survivors being able to see the red glow when the killer is teleporting is extremely helpful for the survivors and gives them a major head start. I understand why they made it this way but again for higher ranks it’s bad, it’s basically a weaker Freddy. With Freddy you’re able to at least fake it and hopefully scare the survivors however with the demogorgon once you pick a portal you’re forced to go there. If you see one and good at looping just ignore it, disabling it will reveal your location but if you leave it just be ready to run once you see it glowing as you know the killer is going there.
Potential buffs.
- While picking a portal let us have the option of moving to any portal instead of a forced location when selecting.
- Only show the red glow when appearing out of a portal or have all portals glow to raise suspense.
- Place on walls, may seem pointless but a nice touch and even might be able to catch survivors off guard. From the height of the killer he should be able to place it at a reasonable position, plus I think in concept art he’s able to come out of walls? Not sure though.
Power - Lunge. Why exactly..? To me seems very underwhelming and not exactly powerful unless in a tight space or to gain a bit of distance. We don’t know how far the lunge is so I can’t have a say on that but when reading over it, it’s a weak nurse blink. Not being able to move besides a “slight turning” at the end while lunging makes it easy to dodge and pointless. From the video it seems like you’re slowed while charging but doesn’t seem like a whole lot hopefully but may still be hurtful if the survivor is in a decent spot. There were many ideas people came up with and I’m ok with the decision but just felt it would be something more. Something similar that would be much better is having the killer charge up and go into a sprint on all fours, being able to make a large lunge with the turning speed the same while being able to jump through windows or break pallets.
Again this is all from the stream we got and may change completely when the ptb comes out making this useless. However in the mean time this is how I feel about the demogorgon. Not saying this should be an S tier killer but at least make it red rank viable because I really want this killer to be something. <3 Please feel free to discuss and correct me if I’m wrong on anything or you think it’s too much power/not enough.
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Regarding the portal:
He means once you pick a portal you have to go to that one while Freddy can cancel it and maybe choose a different one.
Not possible to implement at this stage from a logistical point of view. The animations ect don't allow for that sort of thing.
Also it's pointless, you don't have the ability to gain information during that time in order to justify such a decision.
The portals also have a Killer Instinct feature we are not 100% sure about. They said hold the power to see if anyone is near your portal with Killer Instinct. The PTB has not come out yet but this seems strange to me, what button are we holding? We already have 2 different buttons for the portal and the lunge.
The PTB isn't here yet but right now I have a feeling this is a high tier Killer, those portals make it a powerful end game Killer. Basically, the smaller the map the weaker the Survivors because they have less breathing room. If done right, every match is a 3 Gen match, if the values for the portals are in the right spots then this Killer has huge potential if you think outside the box.
I agree, this type of teleportation is different, more focused so canceling it gives you no benefit.
I thought they said the killer instinct works while you're charging your lunge.
I understand what you mean I should’ve worded it better sorry lol. What I mean was in the video when you stand on a portal you can pick whichever one to go to however if somehow (and sadly it’s happened to me with Freddy) you might teleport to the wrong one or one you didn’t mean to because they’re close costing you big time. I didn’t mean if you pick the wrong one cancel it as there’s no way to animate that but rather once you stand on a portal you have the option to enter it and move to any portal you’ve placed manually
No Killer Instinct is the tracking effect
Yes, but what I thought they said in the stream was that while you were charging your lunge, you gained killer instincts around your portals.
Basically the lunge put you into a sort of predatory mode.
I could be wrong though.
The animation doesn't start until after you've already made the decision. Until then you can just stand on the portal as long as you feel like. What you are proposing would just take longer and not actually solve the issue being brought up.
No they hadn't even mentioned that the pounce existed at that point.
If the survivor is near a portal you see their location, period.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/470813433
At about 26:00 they start discussing the pounce attack.
At 28:30 they discuss the killer instincts.
Janick: "A more advanced thing, when you hold your power button..."
McCote: "When you hold your pounce."
Janick: "You become connected to the upside-down and can sense your portals... and get killer instincts on survivors around them."
This is the conversation that confuses me and we'll get confirmation on during the PTB.
From what they said earlier about using the pounce, you wind it up with M2 and launch it with M1, so the killer instinct would be active until you either launch or cancel it.
If that's the case it means if you see someone closing your portal with instinct, you could approach them while they're oblivious with a pounce already wound up.