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About SWF's SBMM

nanasi_K9 nanasi_K9
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Hello from JP Forum. Sorry if the same topic already exists.

Does anyone know how the rate calculation works when SWF does the matching?

I'm a killer who is at a very low rate. (Kill count is 11 in the last 200 games. Do you think I'm not suited for this game?)

However, I was matched with famous streamers and high-tier tournament players.

And in that case, the friend looks like a very low rate in SWF for the most part.

If it were possible for a higher rated player to intentionally join a lower rated player by SWFing with a lower rated friend, this would be a very big problem.

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  • th3 th3

    Yes and you get the average lowered.

  • Shadowstoast Shadowstoast

    @nanasi_K9 said:

    Hello from JP Forum. Sorry if the same topic already exists.

    Does anyone know how the rate calculation works when SWF does the matching?

    I'm a killer who is at a very low rate. (Kill count is 11 in the last 200 games. Do you think I'm not suited for this game?)

    However, I was matched with famous streamers and high-tier tournament players.

    And in that case, the friend looks like a very low rate in SWF for the most part.

    If it were possible for a higher rated player to intentionally join a lower rated player by SWFing with a lower rated friend, this would be a very big problem.

    It can happen but its rare but sometimes SWF is needed because of braindead randoms

  • StarLost StarLost

    @nanasi_K9 said:

    Hello from JP Forum. Sorry if the same topic already exists.

    Does anyone know how the rate calculation works when SWF does the matching?

    I'm a killer who is at a very low rate. (Kill count is 11 in the last 200 games. Do you think I'm not suited for this game?)

    However, I was matched with famous streamers and high-tier tournament players.

    And in that case, the friend looks like a very low rate in SWF for the most part.

    If it were possible for a higher rated player to intentionally join a lower rated player by SWFing with a lower rated friend, this would be a very big problem.

    Hi there. Spent a long time in Japan, so I'll help you out.

    • No, nobody knows that. However, as far as we know, survivor MMR in SWF groups is based either on the average of the members, or the highest member.
    • There are a lot of streamers that 'smurf'. In Dead by Daylight, smurfing means that you lose a lot of games on purpose, either by AFKing, dying intentionally or DCing. They do this to drop their MMR really low so that they look good on stream. It's a scummy thing to do, but unfortunately not against the rules.
    • Recently, the DC penalty was removed, meaning they were free to do this over and over again, now having very low MMRs.
    • -Or- Something about matchmaking has been disabled or broken on the killer side.

    While my kill rate isn't as low as yours, it's also probably not very good. I'm also running into a lot of SWF groups with 2000-4000 hour players in them.

    Solutions:

    • If you see anyone with 'TTV' in their name, leave the lobby immediately.
    • If you can check someone's Steam profile and see a lot of hours, do the same.
  • Dino7281 Dino7281

    @StarLost said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/290927/about-swfs-sbmm

    Hi there. Spent a long time in Japan, so I'll help you out.

    • No, nobody knows that. However, as far as we know, survivor MMR in SWF groups is based either on the average of the members, or the highest member.
    • There are a lot of streamers that 'smurf'. In Dead by Daylight, smurfing means that you lose a lot of games on purpose, either by AFKing, dying intentionally or DCing. They do this to drop their MMR really low so that they look good on stream. It's a scummy thing to do, but unfortunately not against the rules.
    • Recently, the DC penalty was removed, meaning they were free to do this over and over again, now having very low MMRs.
    • -Or- Something about matchmaking has been disabled or broken on the killer side.

    While my kill rate isn't as low as yours, it's also probably not very good. I'm also running into a lot of SWF groups with 2000-4000 hour players in them.

    Solutions:

    • If you see anyone with 'TTV' in their name, leave the lobby immediately.
    • If you can check someone's Steam profile and see a lot of hours, do the same.

    Yeah,

    4x private = run asap

  • nanasi_K9 nanasi_K9

    @StarLost said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/290927/about-swfs-sbmm

    Hi there. Spent a long time in Japan, so I'll help you out.

    • No, nobody knows that. However, as far as we know, survivor MMR in SWF groups is based either on the average of the members, or the highest member.
    • There are a lot of streamers that 'smurf'. In Dead by Daylight, smurfing means that you lose a lot of games on purpose, either by AFKing, dying intentionally or DCing. They do this to drop their MMR really low so that they look good on stream. It's a scummy thing to do, but unfortunately not against the rules.
    • Recently, the DC penalty was removed, meaning they were free to do this over and over again, now having very low MMRs.
    • -Or- Something about matchmaking has been disabled or broken on the killer side.

    While my kill rate isn't as low as yours, it's also probably not very good. I'm also running into a lot of SWF groups with 2000-4000 hour players in them.

    Solutions:

    • If you see anyone with 'TTV' in their name, leave the lobby immediately.
    • If you can check someone's Steam profile and see a lot of hours, do the same.

    Thanks for the very detailed explanation! It was helpful.

    As long as it's not against the rules of the game, it's probably wrong to complain.

    I do feel a little bad about being played for their videos though...

    I'll try to play more careful with streamers, pros and veterans in the future.

  • StarLost StarLost

    @nanasi_K9 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2599250#Comment_2599250

    Thanks for the very detailed explanation! It was helpful.

    As long as it's not against the rules of the game, it's probably wrong to complain.

    I do feel a little bad about being played for their videos though...

    I'll try to play more careful with streamers, pros and veterans in the future.

    Yes. Just drop those lobbies, or any lobby with survivors in a 'blighted' skin - these are usually hackers.

    It seems like SBMM is working properly again this game, so hopefully you have better matches now.

  • JPLongstreet JPLongstreet

    It is also possible for any killer regardless of their smmr or waiting time to be given a group of survivors who have been waiting too long (like over 25min or more or something). Basically the matchmaking opens up the acceptable smmr range, the longer the wait the wider the range, and if way way too long it tosses in the next available killer no matter their skill.

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