chaser change

bl4ckhearts

so since camping was a strategy and the devs said it was, with the new change to the hook you losing points by being near, its good they made it that if surivors are near it you dont lose points or when u chase some one near it, im wondering what are they going to do about insidious now though because its now rendered useless well i think its now rendered useless cos it was only good for one hit down killers

Khalednazari

Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

Cetren

I'd expect it to get reworked eventually like tinkerer. Tbh, I'd like to see it do something entirely different than the heartbeat. Maybe something like when someone is on the hook you get a move speed bonus and attack cooldown reduction

alivebydeadight

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

insidious is really a mind game-y perk, but I think the community just used it as a camping perk, hence another perk useless by the killer kruger

Peasant

bl4ckhearts said:

so since camping was a strategy and the devs said it was, with the new change to the hook you losing points by being near, its good they made it that if surivors are near it you dont lose points or when u chase some one near it, im wondering what are they going to do about insidious now though because its now rendered useless well i think its now rendered useless cos it was only good for one hit down killers

There's really nothing stopping you from camping 17 meters away as the Clown. Just time a bottle to hinder the injured person and tunnel. 'Course that's easier said than done.

Khalednazari

alivebydeadight said:

insidious is really a mind game-y perk, but I think the community just used it as a camping perk, hence another perk useless by the killer kruger

What's the mindgame in hiding in a corner by the hooked person for few seconds to get rid of your terror radius? You can use it in other ways anyway, without being around the hooked person. 

Peasant

alivebydeadight said:

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

insidious is really a mind game-y perk, but I think the community just used it as a camping perk, hence another perk useless by the killer kruger

Well as Freddy, Insidious gives you dream sonar to asleep survivors, so that's something.

DeadByFlashlight

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

Real game = looping?

DeadByFlashlight

@alivebydeadight said:

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

insidious is really a mind game-y perk, but I think the community just used it as a camping perk, hence another perk useless by the killer kruger

It takes too long to activate

alivebydeadight

@DeadByFlashlight said:

@alivebydeadight said:

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

insidious is really a mind game-y perk, but I think the community just used it as a camping perk, hence another perk useless by the killer kruger

It takes too long to activate

but if you activate it properly, you can really mess with survivors

DeadByFlashlight

@alivebydeadight said:

@DeadByFlashlight said:

@alivebydeadight said:

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

insidious is really a mind game-y perk, but I think the community just used it as a camping perk, hence another perk useless by the killer kruger

It takes too long to activate

but if you activate it properly, you can really mess with survivors

I tried it and its pointless. 3rd person cam denies so much and then you can look through most of the walls.

alivebydeadight

@Khalednazari said:
alivebydeadight said:

insidious is really a mind game-y perk, but I think the community just used it as a camping perk, hence another perk useless by the killer kruger

What's the mindgame in hiding in a corner by the hooked person for few seconds to get rid of your terror radius? You can use it in other ways anyway, without being around the hooked person. 

I mean it was meant to be a mind game perk but some pleb named monto turned this into a camping perk

alivebydeadight

@DeadByFlashlight said:

@alivebydeadight said:

@DeadByFlashlight said:

@alivebydeadight said:

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

insidious is really a mind game-y perk, but I think the community just used it as a camping perk, hence another perk useless by the killer kruger

It takes too long to activate

but if you activate it properly, you can really mess with survivors

I tried it and its pointless. 3rd person cam denies so much and then you can look through most of the walls.

yeah but some spots like the game the bathroom gen you can insideous down there and destroy whoever comes down from the hole above but most players will get curious on why the killer didnt harm anyone yet

Khalednazari

DeadByFlashlight said:o

@Khalednazari said:
Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

Real game = looping?

Camping = gen rushed? 

alivebydeadight

@Khalednazari said:
DeadByFlashlight said:o

@Khalednazari said:

Using insidious means you're not intending to get into chases. Hence, you choose now whether you want to insidious camp, which is lame imo, or get into playing real games with the survivors. 

Real game = looping?

Camping = gen rushed? 

Toxicity=camping?

Khalednazari

alivebydeadight said:

Toxicity=camping?

No

alivebydeadight

@Khalednazari said:
alivebydeadight said:

Toxicity=camping?

No

are you sure about that?

DemonDaddy

Now the only use for insidious is camping a gen which is a horrible strategy. The perk takes to long to use in chase and only viable when you can be certain which gens will be focused on (last 3). It definitely needs a rework now.

alivebydeadight

@DemonDaddy said:
Now the only use for insidious is camping a gen which is a horrible strategy. The perk takes to long to use in chase and only viable when you can be certain which gens will be focused on (last 3). It definitely needs a rework now.

true some killers cannot use the perk like kruger and huntress, because they have a lullaby, and it makes cannibal too powerful when in the basement