Well how far does the limit for griefing go?

i mean sure not reviving urself is not really considered griefing but players suiciding on hook but instead of suiciding instantly they do all 3 and when i run crossmap up to them when im 2 meters away from them they suicide on hook and after the match he said that i was #########... i assume this couldnt be seen as griefing. is pallet dropping temmates griefing?

Last quetion im rank 2 playinmg with rank 8 and 9s telling me im ######### when im dying first after they refuse to loop and i loop for 3.5 gens. Where can i find smart players that actually wants to play the game and doesnt care about their rank that they are ready to sacrifice teammates just so they dont lose rank points, any good discord for an example?

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