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@Zolfo16 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2726168#Comment_2726168
I do not agree.
FC is 90% negative for the gameplay and toxic.
But i will not say that can't be justified.
If the survs are CLEARLY around the hook, you can see them or you know they are there because of perks what are you going to do? Going away searching for survs YOU KNOW are there?
If the doors are open and you hook a surv what are you going to do? Go to the door? If other survs are there you will not catch them and they will go out. But if they are nor there you are going to lose your kill.
Sorry man, if you talk about fighting the Fc that is too much i am ok, if you start saying things like "can't be justified" i do not agree.
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@Zolfo16 said:
Yes but face camping is an abstract topic.
You need to talk about the situations where a person is pushed to FC or where a survivor need to counter killer X that is FC.
For example, many times if you talk about FC you end talking about the bubba and it is normal.
FC can’t be justified, if survivors are gen rushing then they are just doing their job as survivors. If survivors are being toxic and T-bagging and you can’t take it then you shouldn’t be playing the game.
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@Zolfo16 said:
Yes you can but in both scenario this will reduce the speed you can unhook.
Crouching to come, and moreover crouching to go away.
The hag will be able to come back if she simply moved away in order to kick a gen.
The only way to counter this situation completely and unhook quickly is with a grenade that will remove all the traps.
Ok, this discussion was about face campers not hags traps- 😂
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@MegaMech said:
Also, some killers are a bit more campier than others. Like Hag. Perhaps the real solution is to alter that killers play style a little to encourage them to be less campy. Hag's abilities generally require playing in a small area of the map and using hooked players as bait.
Also, some people likely think I'm camping, but they didn't allow me the time to place my traps first. So sometimes you have to give the killer the chance to walk away from the hook too. If a killer sees someone near a hook, they don't really have a reason to leave now do they?
It’s not camping if you go get a survivor NEAR a hook, I’m talking about FACE CAMPING which is camping right next to the hook doing nothing and just waiting for a survivor to come save.
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@Zolfo16 said:
Hag can place traps, she do not need to camp the hook.
Btw the issue with cama is that do not give informations to the other survs and if you are solo noone is coming to trigger your cama.
Cama should go auto, when you are in second stage the stage will not progress for 20/25/30 seconds.
So you will have a 90 seconst second stage instead 60.
If you have a flashlight you can light burn the traps or if you don’t have a flashlight, you can just crouch over the traps and automatically unhook and crouch away.
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@MegaMech said:
There's a perk that pauses the hook timer if another player walks by it.
There are counters to camping (Usually you need to work together). But there are scenarios where you can't do anything about it. For instance the chain saw guy. Or NOED. In those situations you just have to leave and accept the loss of a survivor.
If anything a camper is actually good for survivors. You just go do gens and save them at the last minute, then play correct so that person can't be tunneled. You have to play with strategy to beat the play that lacks ethics (for both sides mind you)
First off, camping is just a way to tell the survivors that you have no skill and are just plain bad at the game
Second, camping is definitely NOT good for survivors. You only have enough time to do like 1 and a half generators and lets just take a second to think about the person BEING camped, its boring and frustrating and ruins games for survivors.
Third, Camaraderie/Kinship is a help if your being camped but who honestly wants to waste a perk slot when BHVR can just fix the camping problem for us.