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@SpaceCoconut said:
I like how you complained about a perceived problem, but offered no suggestions about how to go about changing human behavior in an online competitive game.
Come up with some solutions and then figure out how to get players to adopt the changes without offending or insulting anyone to bring them to a place where they'd be willing to go through with your suggestions.
Until then, you're just complaining about complaining which is EVEN LESS constructive than a post that complains about the game.
1 - This game is not competitive, so what are you talking about?
2 - What suggestions? I'm just trying to tell people to stop hating on each other.
3 - How could I possibly talk better to make people listen to me? I'm not being rude.
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@Raccoon said:
Don't confuse the vocal minorities of biased players on both sides with the community as a whole. Active users on reddit, discord, forums, etc make up a VERY small portion of the player-base.
I'd suggest looking at the post history of users before deciding whether it's worth your while to engage with them.
The only real toxicity that occurs in this game occurs via post-game messaging - Whining on the forums can be easily ignored.
I'm only talking about the people who are in the forum, etc.
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@Venoxxie said:
So tl;dr, you want no more toxicity? Cute, gl though.
Others have tried and failed. I have tried bringing up certain issues that are on both sides and asked people to stop. I've tried to ask people in end game lobbies to be nice when they're not. I kinda just get crap thrown in my face whether it be because people think I'm complaining too much (when I'm just annoyed at what I'm seeing while trying to make a point) or because they just think being toxic is fun (and I've seen people say that). I've tried to tell some friends/smaller streamers to just get over certain things. O-or I get ignored. I'm sure similar things happen with others who have tried to tell people to stop being toxic.
I agree things need to be peaceful, but would anyone actually listen? Uhhh, it'll take a lotta voices or one very important voice to put a stop to it.
Few reasons why people are like this though is because some were born heartless, then you also have big streamers who are looked up to and promote toxicity, there are people out there who teach their friends to tbag the killers and what not, then you got all these people who want the game to be made their way so they're the only one who gets to have fun, and the list goes on.
But most online games have a lot of toxicity, not just us (one reason I don't play OW anymore).
I'm not trying to make this post the salvation of the community, but I just want a few people to see and actually think about it, maybe rethink their acts?
I know it's a long shot but I haven't lost hope, for now.
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@vossler25 said:
Toxic is an understatement to the highest degree, killer mains can see the damage they receive and survivor mains see the damage they receive whereas those that swing both ways just want to enjoy the damn game haha, I play both but will lean slightly to killer arguments, survivors definitely end up getting most of the benefits as killer nerf happens more commonly when survivors cry, but less often for killers, but it does happen, I say around on average to what I've noticed both as killer and survivor about every 4 survivor benefitting updates killers get 1 the worse is ofcourse, generators, I think gen times should be killer reflected, slower paced killers (pig, hag) gens takes slightly longer (not 20 seconds but 10 it's not a huge impact for survivors i'd think but enough to give a killer a chance to get to the other side of the map if survivors start there cause that free gen is BS for killers to deal with) for mid pace killers (trapper, doctor) 5 seconds (they, may have the top base movement speed but they don't have any speed increasing skills) and fast pace killers (hill Billy, wraith) 0 seconds as they have the ability to be across map in quick succession, wraith with actual control and hill Billy with less control but yeets himself to the other side, that way, some killers see the outside more, very rare do I see pig, clown, legion, because gens are too quick for them, they just can't cope without specific mods but then adding them to any killer still makes them worthless, this at least balances it, gives survivors more of a scare for slow and weak killers and keeps strong and fast killers as they are, which then benefits the entire game cause when the rare few come out they end up extra run down cause not many people remember how to deal with them and will keep them guessing who is coming up even more, learning ways around the game more, recent thing is spirit, they say she has no counter, that's cause they aren't smart, trying to get over confident at pallets then end up dying cause she went round in phase realm, instead of just getting away, or continue sprinting when she suddenly stands still allowing her to catch up quicker and you not know where she is instead of stopping and going sideways at walking pace then hiding behind something then successfully getting away 8/10 times, instead the stupid survivor mains cry cause they can't work out simple things and think pallet loops are all you need, which for most killers are true, which is why they don't like spirit haha
TLDR I agree and both sides need to stop crying and play with the killer they cry over to learn them from them
Why are you crying about killer nerfs in a post where I said this needs to stop?
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@Venoxxie said:
My comment was deleted when I went to fix an error (least on my screen but for some reason) but if you saw it, okay.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/807814#Comment_807814
I can tell you saw my comment.
But I play Legion, I get kills. I'm not that good at killer though so I miss a lot of my hits in the first place and if I get a round where all are alive at the end, it's cuz ima potato. I'm not actually complaining though. I rarely even play killer. Idc who I verse nor am I afraid to verse any of the killers, I don't ever DC or anything. It's whatever.
I'm legit just saying, they don't all need to be extra buffy. Like I had said, some are low tier, some are top tier. It's not like the world will end if they don't all become deadly ass monsters like the Spirit (who I have no problem with usually). Nothing can be perfectly balanced.
I'm not saying I want the game to be perfectly balanced, I just want low tier killers to be decent.
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@Venoxxie said:
Once people actually learn to play these top tier killers, it becomes super hard to beat them. Even in SWFs. It's not hard to wreck a SWF, people complain saying how SWF is too strong but I've been SWFs be slaughtered by Spirits and Nurses (before this nerf obviously). No matter the rank too. So if weaker killers are buffed, it's just gonna get harder and harder for survivors to be able to play the game. Not all killers should be weak but not all killers should be strong either. I feel they should just leave it as is. I'd rather have some be low tier, some be mid, and some be top. Not all top or all low.
And there's always... ALWAYS going to be a killer that's not as good as the rest. Should they all get addons like Iri Hatchets or Prayer Beads? Should they all be able to sprint at 225% speed? Should they all be able to shroud their terror radius? No, not at all.
If you want them to buff all the killers though instead of nerfing a single one, I say buff Adren, let the sprint last longer and give us endurance on top of being healed a full health state. Make Dead Hard go a longer range. Let us have and be able to hit DS off both hooks and not just one. Sound fair? Hahahahaaa... no. Pft, not at all. Because I'm sure if killers got all these wonderful extra buffy buffs, this is what survivor mains would want for their perks.
There will be low tier anythings in this game and top tier things. You can't have every little thing be balanced with each other perfectly.
I could not disagree more, BHVR made these killers so they could all make people happy with their different play styles and ways to kill.
People who like to play stealthy can play GF, for example, but people are forced to play killers who don't suit their preferred play styles because they are really weak and can't get kills basically... *cough* Legion *cough*. Your complaints make no sense, you are basically saying he wants to mix all killers.
You're just complaining because you have adapted to certain killers and are afraid to face a killer that you're not familiar with that isn't complete garbage.