FallenAither
FallenAither
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I don't think you need to fight to convince the opposition to agree with you. In this situation it's not the people who disagree who are the ones who can make the change, it's the devs. Trying to convince others to agree is just wasting energy and putting it to the wrong place because I doubt a few comments on a forum is going to make someone change their opinion.
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@kizuati said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3180453#Comment_3180453
Historically even with BHVR,we had to be loud about colorblind options for the devs to go back on literally calling it stupid or whatever and actually implement that.
Oh yeah, I remember that. It took them way too long to add that, and I'm still blown away that people were trying to say they shouldn't add it because of "competitive advantages" or whatever bullcrap they were trying to say it would cause.
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@BenOfMilam said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3180416#Comment_3180416
Again, perfectly reasonable.
Like I said, accessibility options would be great. For example, I would personally love an option to turn off the in-game music, since it gives me headaches sometimes.
I just dislike the attitude of the people advocating for the options. Why would BHVR be inclined to listen to someone about their disability issues when that someone is being an overly-aggressive bully about it? Why would making demands like you're picketing at a political speech change anyone's mind about anything? If anything, it just turns people off of the idea of making accessibility options, because you'd be letting the picketers into your community.
In my opinion, the ends DO NOT justify the means. There's no need for people to be rude and twist people's arms to get what they want. Being polite and rational is what gets you what you want in this world.
I gotta agree with the others here. Being super passive doesn't really get you anywhere, especially when it's something people have been talking about for a while. Being more in your face to BHVR about this doesn't mean people are trying to be rude, and I have no clue why BHVR wouldn't do accessibility issues out of spite because people are asking for it in a less than passive manner. Historically, people have had to be loud in order to be heard and this isn't any different. Like, I'm sure if enough people brought it up, the devs would add a feature to mess around with in-game music. But if we don't bring this up and have a genuine conversation about it, BHVR will never listen and they won't even consider making any changes.
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@BenOfMilam said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3180342#Comment_3180342
See, that's a reasonable and well thought out point. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, just people need to understand that they aren't forced to play the game. They can do something else if playing games is hazardous to their health. If it's too dangerous for you to take part in a particular hobby, the best choice is to simply drop the hobby.
Yeah, it would suck to not be able to play your favorite game anymore after getting into a car accident, but it's just one game and there's so many other things in life you can do for fun. If someone lost a hand or something, they would have to play with a prosthetic or use a specialized controller (that's actually my greatest fear, losing a limb. I trained myself to be partially ambidextrous because I used to be very paranoid about it). Photosensitive players don't have such luxury of being able to adapt to their situation, they can only choose to stop playing.
However, I agree to disagree that people aren't being overly demanding. I'll be 100% honest and admit I'm biased VERY heavily against the DbD community. They tend to be really stuck-up about everything, and treat BHVR like they're all terrible people for making a game that's kinda bad sometimes but mostly ok. I also tend to not really care if people think I'm wrong about something, I'm a bit of fringe thinker so I'm used to it. I prefer to say what I believe to be true.
btw, I'm not even talking about actual disabled people, because I guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of people complaining about lack of photosensitivity accessibility in DbD don't have photosensitivity issues. They're just moral grandstanding for attention. Sucks to hear it, but that's what I think. The people that I know irl that have photosensitivity issues don't even play video games or watch TV at all. It's just too dangerous for them to risk getting a seizure just for the sake of doing something so frivolous, so we play card games and board games instead.
Which is why I don't mind saying that the people saying all this are being selfish or entitled. It's because if they actually had the issues they are talking about, they wouldn't be on a forum about a hobby that could potentially kill them. I just don't buy it, I think they're full of it. The people I know with photosensitivity problems won't even go to people's houses if there's a TV there.
The issue I have with this though is that you can't prove that they don't have photosensitivity/aren't disabled, and it's not impossible for allies to fight for something simply because they don't have it. In the same way a cishet person can fight for LGBTQ+ rights, an able-bodied person can advocate for people who are disabled. Honestly, it tends to take those people standing up for something to get people to listen because companies tend to not listen to minorities themselves.
I know the DBD community can be bad sometimes, every community can, but this isn't a bad cause to be a bit pushy for considering how many people it affects. Like, yeah, if people came together and demanded something silly and was being very loud and vocal about it like making PH's butt big again I'd understand thinking people are entitled because it's something small. This is a legitimate concern though, and kinda needs to be addressed. Disabled people shouldn't just be left out because they're disabled.
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I’m amazed at how many people there are trying to argue against this.
Making a game more accessible isn’t a bad thing in the slightest. I’m lucky enough that I don’t have seizures, but I do have sensory issues and the flashing lights just add to that. If I get the wrong matches I’m left with a huge headache and pretty much can’t function for a while. Not to mention that I’m hard of hearing and can’t always make out when the Killer is coming to me unless I use Spine Chill.
BHVR needs to do better in regards to the game’s accessibility. And before someone tries to say something, it’s not selfish to ask for better accessibility. If I wanted to be selfish, I’d demand BHVR remove the Plague because of emetophobia, or remove the spider imagery because I love spiders and don’t like them being villainised.