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@Archol123 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3711700#Comment_3711700
I never said they would... I just disagreed with the idea to make him basically top tier despite being as easy as he is.
And that's also why i changed the "To A tier" to "Something close to B+ (OR EVEN A TIER)"
I was a lil bit insane wanting to make it that consistent, but essentially, these changes, at least right now, would just make them less awful to play, more fun to pick up, and less frustating to play, in a decent spot where they could be close to killers like Doctor for example
I know, sometimes the easier killers should be also the weakest, but on the other hand, since we are getting more used to killers kinda easy to pick up and a lil bit strong too, i think that a QoL updrage to Legion could make them less miserable to the people who already has invested their hours into them and could also make them a more interesting proposal of a new killer to main for some people too -
@Szarman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3711427#Comment_3711427
i don't think these changes will be even close to making him A-tier. He basically makes his Frenzy 10% faster and changes some addons. Legion isn't and will never be a top tier killer because of his nature - vaulting pallets and windows like a survivor.
Overall these changes are pretty simple, Addons are mostly nice, I don't like the Exhaust Status Effect on The Legion pin tho.
These changes are definitely not going to make him OP, but more fun to play, thats all.
Oh, and to the author of the Post, What about adding some type of Fatigue addon? For example reducing fatigue by a small amount for each chained hit? That could be a pretty fun addon :DD
And talking about Quality of Life - you could reduce the tunnel vision in fatigue a little bit.
I am NOT gonna lie, i would love to make a new fatigue addon to have 4 options for chase (This idea, Old Frank's back, Iri and Legion Pin), however, i'm taking the words from Tat when i asked him for something similar a looooooong time ago, i asked why don't just bring old Joey's, and he basically said that if they cook an addon like that nowadays, EVERYONE would be using that addon and it would be almost like a "Map of the Realm" to Legion
Tat itself added the "Hand Wraps" addon, and he recently turned it into a fatigue addon, but honestly, not a big fan, HOWEVER, i could actually use your idea for a QoL addon, i think you gave me an idea :D
About the Legion Pin… ehhhhh idk man, i know that Exhaustion can be a lil bit toxic but 1) it´s a Green addon so is accurate to the effect and 2) Broken is so inconsistent to stay in the set of addons of this killer, honestly ALL forms of anti-healing should be removing from this collection of addons, so that's the best that comes to mind.
And yeah, i totally forgot about the blurr, black, annoying effect on screen during fatigue, changing that also soon 👍️ -
@DrDucky said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3588078#Comment_3588078
This is not stronger than blight since he still gets countered by survivors spreading out and he has no power to down.
If you want to make legion A tier he needs some kind of power to down an injured guy, since he gets so wrecked by people spreading out and then just normal looping.
That said, your changes are risky since maps are getting smaller with reworks and I cannot know without testing, but if we pushed legion's frenzy too much then he would just simply be able to down every time he used it with little counter play. BUT, if 1 survivor dies then this part goes away and then he literally has no power to down, so then games would depend on how much he could use the 4 hit down to down people fast enough to get a guy out of the game and have a 3v1.
In short, buffing his frenzy to make him A tier is not the right way to go about it, because it opens up so many design problems. To do it, you need to give him some kind of power to down an injured guy.
You clearly put a lot of effort into this, so please take this as my feedback and not criticism.
Checked ;)
I reworked Frank's Mixtape into an actual chase addon, and i invented a collision mechanic for the fatigue state, so Legion can actually use the vaulting mechanic for chases.
Aditionally, i reworked Legion Pin into an Exhaust Addon, so these kinds of perks like Lithe o DH (Obviously after mending) would not be effective at all or at least not that consistent